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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:23 AM
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Plight of super-fat pigs
Edited on Sun Aug-10-03 09:27 AM by dArKeR
he rearing of grossly overweight pigs in Taiwan for ritual slaughter has been condemned by animal welfare groups, BBC reports.

It takes two years to get the pig ready for competition They said it was time to end the annual "Pigs of God" contests that revolved around the force-feeding of animals to see which could achieve the greatest mass.

Pigs weighing in excess of 900kg have been reported.

The animals, which are incapable of standing, are dragged in front of thousands of people before having their throats cut.

http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_1400012,00.html

I have pics of this. I'll try to find them and post after tomorrow at link below.

To a special fish they: run a string through it's gills and hang it up in the air. It suffocates a terrible death for a over 2 hours. I think those pics are at my father's house.

http://darkerxdarker.tripod.com/
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:31 AM
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1. oh and I thought this was about certain Republicans
n/t
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:44 AM
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2. how awful
animal cruelty is so rampant tese days

a sign of the times? Why is the human race not beyond this cruel behavior ?
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 08:12 PM
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3. When this type of thing originated it wasn't 'cruel' it was life for
people living as tribes, living on the land. In just 70 years the Earth's system has completely changed; to us Industrialized, 30%?, living in houses with toilets, running water, electricity, cars...; to the other 60%? living in poverty and licking scraps off of the ground; to 10%? living off the Earth like the 100% lived 100 years ago.

What happens when corporations eventually take over all food production on Earth? What if there's some kind of problem how will you take care of yourself? You have to use your head. Eventually all countries will move toward Europe and the U.S. style were we work in cities and have no knowledge on how to take care of ourselves except to know how to buy it at Walmart and Sam's Club.

I've seen a number of recent documentaries where the 'Scientists' say, 'I know an awful lot of us who think we're not going to be around then...' (future).

It's a really big mess. No one is willing to give up luxury once they've got it. (me too). We're all greedy bastards but the Repukes are maggots.

Anyway, I've been rambling. Life, killing animals in sacrifice seems to be natural because it evolved everywhere. But in a 'non-violent' society we should try to respect the Earth and it's animals more.

In detail, there's not much differenct between a plant and an animal. Atoms, molecules and compounds forming amino-acids and carbohydrates. The way religion justifies eating animals is because, (they say), animals do NOT have a consciousness so it's okay to rip their hearts out and suck their blood into our bodies. I think anyone with a dog or a cat would disagree they don't have a consciousness. I've read, if you take the time, a pig, horse, chicken, rat, dolphin, whale, monkey, gorilla... become the same as a dog to their handlers.

Do plants have an undiscovered conscousness?

Soylent Green!
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 08:32 PM
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4. Now, it has become a kind of Repuke corruption. Because
Edited on Sun Aug-10-03 08:33 PM by dArKeR
it's evolved into a political bribe. (Believe it or not!) (I know in Asia and I think I can extrapolate this to any type of government in a democracy in nations with less GNP.)

The KMT, Guo Ming Dong, occupying force in Taiwan. (The guys who lost in battle in China and just before they were all killed by Mao they escaped in boats and landed on Formosa, 1949. In which they murdered all the existing leaders and scholars and anyone who resisted and renamed the island to Taiwan; estimates 20,000. (It's amazing 99% of the world's journalists don't know this happened. They just publish Taiwan has always been a part of China.))

Anyway, when democracy began to evolve in Taiwan, the Guo Ming Dong started throwing these kind of festivals to buy votes. (Along with giving cash at these events to buy votes.) Abian, current DPP President, has his hands full trying to stop this system.

Just 8 years ago parents could/would sell their children to the Guo Ming Dong sanctioned mafia. The children would be forced into prostitution. I went to see them on Gwei Lin Rd in Taipei. On these dark dirty alleys with red lights in the rooms and bars on the doors and windows. But the girls couldn't run away because they would be killed. I believe when the children got too old they were put to work in a factory.
probably making trinkets being sold to the U.S.

And don't forget, Taiwan has been the number one destination for U.S. Government staff for about 15 years.

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Reuters continues to get it wrong!

It can only be called disinformation, incompetent reporting or bribery corruption.
‘(Taiwan) the two have been governed separately since splitting amid civil war in 1949.’
http://www.msnbc.com/news/885653.asp?0cv=CB10


Here’ your proof.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/316717.asp?cp1=1
Centuries ago, the island had an aboriginal culture of Malay and Polynesian descent. In the 17th century, the Dutch and Portuguese had colonies here, and the imported Chinese laborers — all men — intermarried with locals, forming the basis of the majority of today’s population. According this version of history, it was only in 1887 that China declared Taiwan a part of its territory in an effort to stem Japanese expansionism, say independence activists. But when that failed, China ceded Taiwan to Japan in perpetuity.
The Japanese held Taiwan for 50 years, until their defeat in World War II. In the years immediately after, Allied Forces backed Chiang Kai-shek’s temporary occupation of Taiwan. But according to pro-independence legal experts, the Nationalists never had a legal basis to stay.
“In 1949, Taiwan did not “split off from China”, but was occupied by the losing side in the Chinese Civil War,” according to a 1999 white paper endorsed by 18 overseas Taiwanese associations.


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The RKF of Asia, President Chen Shui Bian (Abian)
http://www.president.gov.tw/
http://www.president.gov.tw/1_president/e_subject-05a9.html
http://www.scanews.com/collester/article3/article3.html



Liu Yan Chun grew up in Taiwan firmly believing that her family would someday go back to mainland China. It took most of her life to realize that there would be no triumphant return, as envisioned by the Nationalists when they retreated (Edit: this word should be INVADED Formosa which they renamed to Taiwan.) to Taiwan after defeat by the Chinese Communists in 1949. It took her longer still to realize that she had no desire to return.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/315530.asp



First lady's European tour seen as diplomatic success
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/07/24/1059010376.htm


Assassination Attempt
Chen's wife, you know, was at a time an even more strident crusader than he was for the rights of the Taiwanese and the DPP. In 1985 she was rammed over three times by a truck and was crippled, and the driver was never found despite the fact that there were witnesses. Most Taiwanese believe _ that it was a botched KMT assassination attempt. And Chen has to go home every night and see her sitting in a wheelchair because of it. It's not an easy thing to shake.
http://www.time.com/time/asia/marketqa/2000/03/20/



Accident or assassination attempt?

One account claims the driver, described in press reports at the time as a "simple peasant with a steady job and a fixed residence, Chang Jung-tsai" was driving an "illegally assembled truck" down the narrow street where Mrs. Chen was standing.

Witnesses said Chang purposefully hit Mrs. Chen. They insisted that the driver reportedly exclaimed "Oh, she's not dead yet" before backing up and running over her again to ensure maximum injury if not death.
http://www.chinaonline.com/refer/biographies/secure/chenshuibian.asp



From poverty to power: Chen Shui-bian's rise to the presidency
http://www.chinaonline.com/refer/biographies/secure/chenshuibian.asp


(Ex President) Lee says pro-unification forces to blame for SARS outbreak
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/05/19/1053309473.htm


DPP decries Soong's proposal
(Soong and Lien are mainland pigs.)
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/06/15/2003055308


KMT (Pig) rebel blasts party's voting order
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/06/02/2003053622


Recent poll shows satisfication with government, Chen
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/05/17/1053136494.htm



Former hospital chief under fire (SARS spreader)
Wu was the superintendent of Taipei Municipal Jen Ai when President Chen Shui-bian was Taipei mayor, but he was fired over allegations of corruption in an equipment purchase scandal.

When Ma Ying-jeou (KMT Pig) was elected mayor, he invited Wu back and made him the superintendent of Hoping.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/05/13/205762



The ‘New Taiwan Person’
Centuries ago, the island had an aboriginal culture of Malay and Polynesian descent. In the 17th century, the Dutch and Portuguese had colonies here, and the imported Chinese laborers — all men — intermarried with locals, forming the basis of the majority of today’s population. According this version of history, it was only in 1887 that China declared Taiwan a part of its territory in an effort to stem Japanese expansionism, say independence activists. But when that failed, China ceded Taiwan to Japan in perpetuity.
The Japanese held Taiwan for 50 years, until their defeat in World War II. In the years immediately after, Allied Forces backed Chiang Kai-shek’s temporary occupation of Taiwan. But according to pro-independence legal experts, the Nationalists never had a legal basis to stay.
“In 1949, Taiwan did not “split off from China”, but was occupied by the losing side in the Chinese Civil War,” according to a 1999 white paper endorsed by 18 overseas Taiwanese associations.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/316717.asp?cp1=1


Premier's performance satisfies public, poll says
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/08/01/2003061799
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:32 AM
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5. I didn't have time to find the pics. I'll do it tomorrow with some Betel
Nut pics
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:35 AM
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6. PLEASE DON'T POST THE PICS
I am sure that we can imagine how cruel the treatment is, withough seeing it :(

Amazing how the most "evolved" creature on earth is so bloodthirsty:(
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