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eclipsenow.org Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 05:27 PM
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Australian Senate: Worry NOW — peak oil imminent.
Hi all,
is everyone aware that the Australian Senate report into peak oil basically confirms everything Republican Roscoe Bartlett says, and that we must take peak oil seriously now? Roscoe Bartlett, for all his other Republican party platforms, at least has this right. How many Democrats are taking peak oil seriously? Now that Democrats have taken the Senate and House, is the peak oil taskforce Roscoe Bartlett was on still active? I haven't been able to find any reports on this yet.

Australian Senate report into peak oil
http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/committee/rrat_ctte/oil_supply/int_report/index.htm
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 05:44 PM
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1. Artificial Scare-City

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 06:10 PM
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5. Peak oil is real. 'Terra' is an artificial scare.
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 06:32 PM
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6. mhm watch this
It's interesting .. Greg Palast about Oil
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-3641043830777908106
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:51 PM
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9. An Open Letter to Greg Palast (Richard Heinberg)
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spillthebeans Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 10:14 PM
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11. I love the Lincoln Quote
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 05:45 PM
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2. Thats the difference between us and them, We want to know the truth.
I'm sure unlike Republicans disassembling the last governments accomplishments, these people have bigger shrubs to fry ,c'mon home shrub we're waiting for you.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 05:46 PM
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3. Well, they don't take global warming serious
Why should peak oil be any different?:eyes:
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sal paradise Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 05:46 PM
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4. Quote from about a year ago...
On a oil supply crisis:

"'The least-bad scenario is a hard landing, global recession worse than the 1930s,' says Kenneth Defeyes, a Princeton Univ. professor of geosciences. 'The worst case borrows from the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: war, famine, pestilence and death.' He's not kidding: Production of pesticides and fertilizers needed to sustain crop yields rely on large quantities of chemicals derived from petroleum. And Standford University's Amos Nur says China and the United States could 'slide into a military conflict' over oil." - From USA Today (sorry, can't remember exact date)

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eclipsenow.org Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 07:21 PM
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7. I'm with the "Greater Depression" mob
Hi Sal,
thanks for that quote. While I can see the potential for the 4 Horsemen to take a ride through the western world because of the combined effects of peak oil, global warming, depleted fisheries, peak water, peak phosphorus (coming later), peak soil, peak grains, etc.......

I can also see that sites like http://worldchanging.com also have all sorts of new developments that might just mitigate these. So I think we've got about 5 years before a MASSIVE stockmarket meltdown and many airlines going bankrupt, leading us into a Great Depression. But then... maybe peak oil will actually teach us the value of New Urbanism, which might just mitigate many of the other resource depletion issues? I certainly hope so for the sake of my kids.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:20 PM
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8. Lots Are
Congressional Peak Oil Caucus:

Roscoe Bartlett (R)
James McGovern (D)
Vern Ehlers (R)
Tom Udall (D)
Mark Udall (D)
Raul Grijalva (D)
Wayne Gilchrest (R)
Jim Moran (D)
Dennis Moore (D)

Happy?
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 09:53 PM
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10. Actually I'd be more frightened if they found more oil.
I wish we were running out of coal too.
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eclipsenow.org Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 05:08 AM
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12. You can't mean that
Surely you can't mean that? I mean, I know global warming is as serious, but if we suddenly ran out of oil, who would be around to worry about global warming?
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:24 AM
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13. I absolutely mean that.
Oil is a fetish, not a necessity.
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