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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:42 AM
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U.S. losing lead in science and engineering-study
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:00 PM
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1. But just wait, * has a fix for this.
We're gonna have Godly evangelical biology.
We're gonna have Godly evangelical physics.
We're gonna have Godly evangelical engineering.

Unfortunately...

Doctors will stop knowing how to treat disease and injuries.
The technology of our future will be the technology of the present.
Buildings, bridges and roads will all collapse.

It's a small price to pay to maintain righteous purity.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 12:51 PM
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2. That has long been obvious.
For years, U.S. university science & engineering classes have been full mostly of international students. Now, the international students increasingly go to universities in other parts of the world. Can you say: 'death spiral'?
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 01:12 PM
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3. see related stories
The wages of fundamentalism
Peter Watson International Herald Tribune
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 22, 2005
CAMBRIDGE, England For decades, "big science" - indeed any kind of science - has been led by the United States. There are warning signs, however, that American science is losing its edge, and may even have peaked. One reason is that as religious and political fundamentalism tighten their grip, they are beginning to sap America's intellectual vitality. . .

. . . According to a survey in Physical Review, reported in May 2004, the number of scientific papers published by West European authors had overtaken those by U.S. authors in 2003, whereas in 1983 there were three American authors for every West European. The percentage of patents granted to American scientists has been falling since 1980, from 60.2 percent of the world total to 51.8 percent. In 1989, America trained the same number of science and engineering PhDs as Britain, Germany and France put together; now the United States is 5 percent behind. The number of citations in science journals, hitherto led by American scientists, is now led by Europeans. . .

. . . As a result of fundamentalist opposition, America is already falling behind in cloning and stem cell research, now led by South Korean, Italian and British scientists. In February the New Scientist reported a survey in which fully half the scientists working for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service said they had been pushed to alter or withdraw scientific findings for political reasons.

. . . Look back at the four great eras of fundamentalism in world history. Under the influence of the Israelite zealots in the centuries before Christ, ancient Israel dropped behind the surrounding civilizations both politically and materially, and provoked the Romans, who annihilated them, sparking a diaspora which lasted 2,000 years. Christianity in the Roman Empire led to half a millennium of dark ages, ending only with the rediscovery of Aristotle in the 12th century. Ascetic Buddhist fundamentalism in China from the fourth century to the ninth century resulted in 4,600 monasteries being destroyed, before the Song renaissance released the finest flowering of Chinese civilization. And Islamic fundamentalism beginning in Baghdad around 1067 led to a millennium of backwardness, which still afflicts the Islamic world.

By contrast, the very history of modern Europe -

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/06/21/news/edwatson.php


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Scientists debate wait on the next Einstein
By Joseph B. Verrengia, Associated Press
Will there ever be another Einstein? This is the undercurrent of conversation at Einstein memorial meetings throughout the year. A new Einstein will emerge, scientists say. But it may take a long time. After all, more than 200 years separated Einstein from his nearest rival, Isaac Newton.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2005-04-26-next-einstein_x.htm
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