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Sara Beverley Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:51 PM
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I asked this on GD and was told to discuss here: Israeli soldiers killed
in tunnel bomb. Now my question is why are Palestinians now being called terrorist for killing Israeli soldiers. Seems to me this was not an act of targeting civilians but occupying military. Israel responds by bombing civilian targets and no one say anything about it.
I agree that Palestinians should not be targeting civilians, neither should Israel. But an occupying military force is a totally different story. Same is true for Iarq. Military is fair game when a country or a people is being occupied by a military force. Let that happen in this country and see if I don't try to kill the occupiers.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 02:57 PM
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1. At the risk of starting a flame war,
Palestinians are by (Israeli) definition terrorists. Most of the good press goes to Israel in this conflict. Palestinians apparently are supposed to endure whatever it is Israel inflicts upon them and not resist or fight back.

From my perspective, there's a lot of bad faith on both sides, and atrocities are committed by both. But it seems to me that Israel has the upper hand, especially in terms of technology and weaponry, and still they want to grind Palestinians into oblivion.

It's hard to see any good resolution ever coming in this thing.
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dems4israel Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:28 PM
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8. bad logic
If I kill you with a laser guided bomb or if I kill you by stoning
you to death its still murder just because Palestinian terrorists sometimes use low tech techniques of murder it is still BLOODY MURDER!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:00 PM
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2. Just another spin
of the tragic wheel of violence and mayhem that defines Israeli Palestinian relations.

I find the attacks on the Israeli military to be more justifiable than on civilians. I can certainly understand it, but what does it achieve? What can it achieve? More of the same and more of the same. Until the U.S. does something about it's lopsided relationship with Israel, nothing will change.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:08 PM
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3. Until the leaders of the Palestinians accept a Jewish Israel there will
be no peace.

Right of return is just another way of saying Israel must have a majority Arab population before some folks are happy.

And that will not happen.

So it is terrorists and terrorism. And given that the Israeli position at Taba was rejected - which gave into just about every PA demand except right of return -

Those that kill Israeli soldiers are terrorists - and Israeli soldiers that murder civilian Palestinians not helping the terrorists- like the fellow did to the young girl - are murderers.

At least IMHO.

:-)

peace

:-)
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:09 PM
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4. isralie soldiers can kill un armed palistinian 15 year olds
with no recourse, the only thing mising in israel are the trains
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 03:24 PM
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5. That's just
ignorant inflammatory tripe, and it doesn't help.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:10 PM
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6. actually i have a link for it
somewhere
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dems4israel Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 08:24 PM
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7. Hey Sara
What if one of those Israeli soldiers was your son or daughter or maybe your husband? would you like to look at their mangled bodies?
those Israeli soldiers were trying to protect the Israeli boarder from terrorist who want to kill innocent people but since Israel has top security now they could not get to innocent people In Israel people do not volunteer they were drafted they did not choose to serve. I find your post disgusting I have had family that has served in the IDF would you like them to be murdered as well for being "occupiers" the term "occupation" is the Palestinan excuse for everything when a group of elderly holocaust survivors were blown up on Passover the Palestinians blamed it on "the occupation" when Arafat swindled millions of funds from his own poor people he blamed it on "the occupation" you really buy into this worn out idea huh?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:29 PM
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10. yikes
that's some screed. :silly:

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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:55 AM
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9. You're correct in your analysis....
targeting an occupying military force is a legitimate tactic,not "terrorism" by any definition of the word.

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