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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:14 AM Original message |
US Supreme Court rules right to bear arms is an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT! |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
1. More... |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
2. does it apply to the states? |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Still waiting for the link n/t |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Here is the link to the decision |
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SlipperySlope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
29. no - that was not the question the court was asked |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
4. Armed housing projects, shootouts in malls yeah! |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. shows how much you know |
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Dimensio0 (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Do you have any rational argument to offer? |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. On shootouts at malls. |
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Big Al Mac (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
86. A CHL isn't needed |
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Anexio (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Racist |
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MyRV9 (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Huh? |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. He used the word Projects which is a Code Word for black neighborhoods. n/t |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
54. Many projects.... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
61. I've never seen a lack of arms in a housing project. |
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Liberal Gramma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
9. I wish they were as protective of the 4th amendment as the 2nd |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
10. "It was the year of fire..." |
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MyRV9 (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
46. Wow |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. I think you misunderstand me. |
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MyRV9 (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Gotcha! n/t |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
11. From the syllabus... |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Derby... |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Go for it! |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Thank you. |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I agree with the substance of today's ruling but |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Does "the security of a free state" not include the security of each individual and family? |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. My issue, |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. I do not count on government to protect me in the event of a major earthquake or other disaster |
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MyRV9 (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #20 |
43. Re: My Issue |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Precisely. |
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east texas lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
82. I agree... |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. The US Supreme Court disagrees with you. |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. Another interpretation |
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MyRV9 (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Hmmm. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. I think it was pretty clear. |
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MyRV9 (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
42. Go read the opinion... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
48. Either you have not read the SCOTUS opinion or you purposely distort that opinion or you are reading |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
12. I am disapointed there were not more votes affirming Heller |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
15. I guess I don't understand the complaints about trigger locks |
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zagging (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Put on cement shoes |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. thank you for not answering my question nt |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #31 |
47. This doesn't mean |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Outlawing the possession of non-trigger-locked guns in your own home |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. but does it contravene the second? |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. A disabled weapon is not actually a weapon |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. ok, a better answer |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Trigger locks and mini safes vary |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. The problem was the law, not the locks. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
56. Agreed. I was answering a direct question about locks. |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
65. Nope, just overthinking |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. does this really happen often? |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. You don't have to fire to effectively use a gun |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
57. The court, looking at the history of the 2ndA's adoption |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
64. Self defense was a given at the time |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. ha |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I wasn't talking about anyone specific, just |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. "isolated incidents are a national epidemic " |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. My bed is right by my front door |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. MMM CZ-75 |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #74 |
87. that sucks and changes things |
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MyRV9 (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #15 |
44. Yes... |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
59. Because it is an attempt at micro-managing |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
16. it seemed like the dissent |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
66. Oh yes |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
22. Well I guess Republicans just got one potential wedge issue taken away. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
24. Looks like the machinegun ban and restrictions on unlicensed concealed carry are still OK... |
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MyRV9 (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #24 |
45. But... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. I think it is pretty clear they are speaking of classes of weapons, |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. “limits the type of weapon to which the right applies to those used by the militia”, i.e. M-16 & M9 |
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MyRV9 (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Yup |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
34. It must make some people uncomfortable |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I do not care if Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Bush, and the Devil himself agree with me... |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Why? |
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Otto DeFay (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Even a broken clock is correct twice a day |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. And how would you feel |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. The Democrat Party agrees with the opinion. Are you embarrassed to call yourself a Democrat? n/t |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
62. When ones house is on fire... |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
68. It makes me uncomfortable the split was STILL 5-4 |
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Stump (808 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. I agree... |
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Antinius (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. And this runs contrary |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
76. What does "defend the country" mean when all the other rights are over and done with? |
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Antinius (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. why the geographical bias? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Guess you've never lived in Manhattan if you think it's like Seattle. |
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Antinius (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. My grandfather live in Manhattan |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. It can't be businesses providing the service. It has to be free. NYC is too expensive. |
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Antinius (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Well, that's up to the city |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-26-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. There's a guy in Texas who imported tap water from Manhattan to make pizza. |
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