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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 09:34 PM Original message |
ACLU’s latest statement on The Right To Bear Arms, (6/26/2008) |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. I will not join the ACLU due to their ambivalence about gun rights |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. so... the people you dislike don't have civil rights? /nt |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
51. Only when they are distributing manuals |
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Malidictus Maximus (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. I strongly support them |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. subject to interpretation |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I've been an ACLU member for decades and I have and will continue to press ACLU to distance itself |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. you're wrong |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. "you're wrong" about what? The issue in Heller was whether the 2nd protected an individual or |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. what you were wrong about |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Your talk about "Shoulder launched missiles" is ludicrous. Have you read |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. why don't you tell us what it says, jody? |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. and *why is it ludicrous? /nt |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Because you are not familiar with federal law and that lack of knowledge is laughable when you try |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. ROFL |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I say again, "Do you have a substantive comment about the OP re ACLU's statement or my statement |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I made my comments, it seems however you're a tad too thick to realize it /nt |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #24 |
42. speaking of thick |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. If you're talking about a right |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. quit clinging to "absolute" as a buzzword |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. Sorry - |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Positions you are taking here are demonstrably false. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Please read the source material below that proves government recognizes RKBA is a civil right. |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. hmmm |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. debatable |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. You might wish to debate US v. Miller but SCOTUS has made a decision that is the law of the land. |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. no need to prounce |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Actually I have no desire to debate US v. Miller /nt |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. that poster selectively used miller |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. I have read a bit on the Miller case |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. true |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. also on the miller case |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Miller will be revisited |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. lastly |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Re: Scott, |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. doubt it |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. but what has driven opinion in the last 10 years? |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. there is a reasonable arguement to be made it came |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Dershowitz is a putz |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. i agree with alot of what dershowitz says |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. fair enough.. but I don't think he can be consdired scholarly |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. i disagree |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. this is veering pretty far off topic |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. my logic is very simple |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. disagree with the logic |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #29 |
45. The weight of scholarly opinion: "individual right"... |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Here's the thing: |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Some cold hard truth right there n/t |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
40. Cruikshank |
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Will E Orwontee (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. NCevilDUer is profoundly incorrect. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-28-08 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
30. So when the rightwing assholes on the Supreme Court vote the way YOU want, then the ACLU sucks |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-29-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. No you don't "Got it". The ACLU once recognized RKBA as an individual civil right but in recent |
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