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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 06:58 PM Original message |
125 Shot Dead In Chicago Over Summer, about Twice US Troop Deaths in Iraq |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't get your point. |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. No, he is implying that they would be capable of |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. I don't think the stats presented support the argument well. |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
59. They don't really support anything |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
66. I'm not sure if the "90-80" percents are nation-wide... |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:29 PM Original message |
It's hard to believe that you really can't understand the question |
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panader0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Twice US troop deaths perhaps |
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sfwriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Per capita, US Troops and Troop deaths trump Chicago... |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Wouldn't be much good if they didn't would they? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
67. What do you propose? |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. How many were police officers? |
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Journeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Very true. American troops in Iraq function as police officers. Here's a better comparison. . . |
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DoctorMyEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. apples to oranges |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Sometimes apple and oranges can be legitmately compared. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Larger than the population of Alaska, for starters. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
9. "More than 90 percent of the offenders have criminal histories" |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I've never tried to kill someone. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Calling all citizens who aren't good and decent to turn in your guns |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. It seems smarter than calling all citizens who are good and decent to turn in their guns. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Both are equally ineffectual |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. The Constitution trumps the Precautionary Principle |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. It doesn't trump the Constitution. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Then I'm also for paper clip control, |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. OK now that we've confirmed you favor gun control |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I hope I'm misunderstanding you. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. words have meaning |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 02:12 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Deleted message |
iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. "Isn't psychiatric care free in Canada?" |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
80. It nearly worked. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. The Constitution is most definitely out of the picture |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. You are misusing "ideology" |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Sorry, can't have it both ways. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. "Taking the Constitution out of the Equation" |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. You're sidestepping the issue. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. I think you're misunderstanding the point. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. maybe if someone explained it really simply ... again ... |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I've already done that here. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. allow me to reiterate. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Blind people are entitle to equal protection of the law-- |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
79. okay, sweetums |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. The bum strikes back |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Except his understanding is consistent with Supreme Court decisions. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. You have no idea what my understanding is |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. You don't think the Constitution matters, I think it's your opinions that are in question. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Maybe you could point me to where I said |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. "It's down to my opinion vs. yours" |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
75. The field is strong with this one. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. the brick skull is way stronger |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. Absolutely. Minors and dangers to society |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. such interesting concepts |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. I've seen it, you've seen it, heck it probably happens in Canada too |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. did you think you had a point? |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Oh so it all hinges on "less rights"? |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Absolutely precious. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-09-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. More comic gold. |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. Well TPaine7 just handed your ass to you |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. the ignorant leading the ignorant ... |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-10-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #77 |
85. I wonder where that Brady clown is leading her, tburnsten? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. 37-60% of total traffic fatalities were caused by DUI. And amazingly, 100% of them had vehicles! |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Yes there are some fans, |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. *nod* Just FYI, the 60-37% stat is from 1982 to 2006. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. joshie, I've missed ya |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
56. Took a break from politics. |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. New police chief made a LOT of personnel changes - upset the applecart. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. the mother who moved away to avoid the violence |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
11. Local RW radio nutjob blamed it on Obama today. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
14. 1180 Iraqi nationals killed - ten times Chicago total |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
21. I figured this would show up here. |
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pilsengirl (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. It is a gang problem not a gun problem |
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hendo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. but it could save your life nt |
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pilsengirl (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. How would it save my life |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. You still have a higher likelihood of getting hit by a car. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. but if you had a gun |
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pilsengirl (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Only if the driver of the car |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #39 |
69. HA! And they're usually driving slowly and make a better target (nt) |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 09:13 AM Response to Reply #29 |
68. The right to keep & bear arms does not come with a warranty... |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
72. It wouldn't |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
64. Might not change for you |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
28. So, the total homicide rate of US soldiers |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #28 |
38. just because you got that little thing beside your name |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. I was making a point |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. I was making a joke |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. Oh |
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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
41. Chicago is a violent place |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #41 |
70. Ah, hell. More facts and good argument. Party-pooper (nt) |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
74. The Dem platform says “We recognize that the right to bear arms is an important part of the American |
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