"The NRA Blacklist" You Can Be On It, Too!

[XanaDUer]

The NRA Blacklist has a host of sports figures, celebrities, and Progressive organizations on it:

http://www.nrablacklist.com/

[MrBenchley]

1. So far more than 25,000 have signed up

in just under three weeks....

Until the NRA came along, no one realized that Hallmark Cards was plotting with Vinny Testaverde, the American Academy of Pediatricians, and Hadasssah to take guns away from feeble-minded right wingers....

[mmm]

2. Ain't it great! I signed up pronto: blacklisted by the NRA!

[MrBenchley]

4. You're in good company

Meanwhile look at the scum that the NRA DOES associate with....

http://www.vpc.org/studies/nrafamst.htm

[Romulus]

3. knock yourself out and sign up

all you'll be doing is getting put on a donation solicitation list for the Brady Campaign. . . .:eyes:

That'll show, <erm>, somebody . . . :eyes:

[MrBenchley]

5. A good cause

and worth donating to...

[DoNotRefill]

6. So when was the last time you donated...

and why do gun control groups keep ending up bankrupt?

[slackmaster]

7. Hehehehehe

I like given them one-cent donations by credit card when they are dumb enough to allow them. They typically get charged a lot more than that for every transaction.

[Lefty48197]

56. Secondary boycotts are illegal and could land you in jail

Consider yourself warned.

[XanaDUer]

8. "So when was the last time you donated..."

What business of that is yours?

[slackmaster]

9. Pardon me for butting in on this little love-fest

What business do you have objecting to another contributor asking that question of someone besides yourself?

I have MrBenchley on ignore because he made an inappropriate wise-crack about the death of my father, but I'm sure he is capable of handling the question himself.

[XanaDUer]

12. What objection do you have to my asking you what business

it is of yours?

This is no love fest. I have no idea who the hell mr benchley is.

[slackmaster]

22. Why do you object to my objecting to your objecting?

We're all supposed to be friends here. Except MrBenchley. He is not my friend.

[MrBenchley]

11. No business at all

Obviously.

[MrBenchley]

10. None of your goddamn business

"why do gun control groups keep ending up bankrupt"
Because they're not funded by scum selling guns to other scum.

[XanaDUer]

13. Pleased to meet 'cha

Mr. Benchley!

:hi:

Good one.

[MrBenchley]

14. Thanks

Glad to see you too.

[XanaDUer]

15. Ooooo!

"Love Fest"!

Is that like "Love Shack"? (heart smiley here)

[MrBenchley]

17. Guess so...

At least we aren't pegging shots at each other.....or sulking about mean old Hillary taking away our phallic substitutes....

You might enjoy some earlier threads about the subject...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=17304&mesg_id=17304

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=17457

[iverglas]

49. just hold on now

Is this Chick ... what is that expression, from before even my time ... something to do with "my time" ... "xmftning my time" ...


Is she trying to steal my boyfriend??

I say she's too young for you, Benchley, not that I have a clue. But three would be a crowd off here in ignore-land regardless.

Cheese, I go do some work for the day, and look what happens ...

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[CarinKaryn]

29. Mr.Benchley gets slammed

because he refuses to believe America would be safer if everyone in it carried an Uzi. People put him on ignor because it is the only way they can blot out the truth.

[Name removed]

31. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[MrBenchley]

33. Still pretending that Australian bloodbath exists, eh?

Hahahahahahaha....

[Stilgar]

35. Yep

I posted all that stuff about bloodbaths, yes sir I did..

VIOLENT CRIME RATE does not equal bloodbath, never said it did, see that is why we slam Benchly.

[MrBenchley]

32. Thank you

I also get slammed because I point out what scummy people are trumpeting this gun rights horsecrap...and what decent people are for gun control.

[slackmaster]

38. It looks like, yes, YES! Another Straw Man!

because he refuses to believe America would be safer if everyone in it carried an Uzi.

Nobody on DU has ever made such a suggestion. Not even people who have been tombstoned.

People put him on ignor because it is the only way they can blot out the truth.

I put him on Ignore because he wrote something very cruel and personal about the death of my father, not at all related to the subject matter of the discussion at hand.

I'll debate any appropriate subject with anyone as long as they treat me with courtesy and respect, as required by the posting rules. If I want to get called names and subjected to personal attacks I can always go to Usenet.

[iverglas]

51. it's self-portraits now is it?

"Jerk is sarcastic, mean, unforgiving and never misses an opportunity to make a cutting
remark. Jerk's repulsive personality quickly alienates other Warriors, and after some initial
skirmishing he is usually ostracized. Still, Jerk is very happy to participate in electronic
forums because in cyberspace he is free to be himself...without the risk of getting a
real-time punch in the mouth."

If you want that pic for your sig line, I won't fight you for it.

And just so's nobody claims to have beat me to it:




"Profundus Maximus eagerly holds forth on all subjects, but his thin knowledge will not support a sustained assault and therefore his attacks quickly peter out. Profundus Maximus often uses big words, obscure terms and...ahem...even Latin to bluff his way through battle."

"Thin knowledge"??? Well, I'm also a "clean-freak" virgo who hasn't washed the kitchen floor in 2 years ... or is it 4 ... . Never did hold with astrology.


Maybe I'd rather be ...



"Philosopher differs from Profundus Maximus in that he actually does know something. While somewhat humorless and slightly aloof, he is also slow to anger. When he does deign to engage in battle he is considerate of other opinions, but his ponderous and lengthy cogitations effectively smother the opposition."

... but that just doesn't look like much fun. Although jody might put up some stiff competition for the Profundus crown.


I think we've hit the jackpot on this fella hereabouts ... his mama must've taken many fertility drugs, since there generally seem to be octoplets of him:



"Stone Deaf is one of the few truly invincible Warriors because nothing can shatter his impenetrable armor of non recognition. His primitive battle strategy is maddening effective; he simply refuses to acknowledge any arguments he doesn't like. Kung-Fu Master can hammer away with devastating blows, Cyber Sisters can screech in full throat and Profundus Maximus can expound until he drops, but Stone Deaf remains utterly oblivious as he advances his dogged and often repetitious attacks. In the early stages of battle a wide array of Warriors will fling themselves at Stone Deaf, but inevitably they fall back exahusted or lose interest when they see that their best weapons have no effect. His only real enemy is Admin, who has the power to eject him from the discussion forum."


Oh jo-o-o-deee ... c'mon girl ...



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[slackmaster]

54. Missed me by a mile

Although I have only ever used this one ID on DU this one fits me much better:



"Impostor is a digital Proteus who changes his persona whenever it suits his purposes. That 21 year old co-ed from Arizona State you met in a discussion forum may, in fact, be a retired steel worker from Pittsburgh. Impostor will claim to be black, white, rich, poor, young, old, straight or gay, and if he's good he can pull it off - at least for a while. Of course, there are sinister, even criminal reasons Impostor would lie about who he is, but more often he fakes it to lend weight to his arguments, or simply to amuse himself. Impostor's requisite imagination and good writing skills can make him a formidable enemy, but even the best of this Warrior class will eventually blunder and reveal their true identity. Once uncovered, Impostor will always flee, but he may return in another form - you just never know..."

So watch your six...

[madrchsod]

16. signed this

morning and i`m proud of it.it is going to be interesting to see how many names they get..

[MrBenchley]

18. Good for you!

The NRA is the scum of the earth....

[GOPFighter]

19. No, the scum...

... are the gunners who think the NRA is too wussy! :scared:

[jhfenton]

48. "...the NRA is too wussy!"

I've said it on here before: I think the NRA is sometimes too quick to compromise. I think they need to be more aggressive in their education, publicity, and lobbying efforts. But they are a mainstream organization, so they are limited in their ability to take hardline positions.

That's why I also support groups like the Gun Owners of America and the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, and work with the Ohioans for Concealed Carry.

[CO Liberal]

50. And We Have People Out Here In Colorado.......

...who think Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Michael Savage are too LIBERAL.

[Lefty48197]

57. Did I just read what I think I just read?

The NRA is a mainstream organization that sometimes is too quick to compromise?
That is so ridiculous I don't know how to respond.
You support the GOA and the JPFO?
I don't know how to respond to that either.
I would like to take this moment to remind you that DU is a website for Democrats and like minded progressives.

[CO Liberal]

20. The NRA Blacklist Welcomes Its Newest Member........

Me!!!!!

:-)

[MrBenchley]

21. Good for you

Soon we will disarm the gun owners and make them slaves like the people of Australia....with the help of Ben and Jerry, Doug Flutie, and the YWCA...(snicker)

[Stilgar]

23. Oh too funny, happens to be wrong, and that song was great

Outrage 1: True the NRA wants back military "styled" weapons, I have never seen a semi-auto fired 12 times in 2 seconds and all of them hit the target... hell I have never seen a semi auto fire 12 times in 2 seconds.
Right now 10 round semi-autos are out right now. Those 2 extra bullets before a reload are the most lethal.

Outrage 2: The bill prevents worthless lawsuits, not ones that acually have merit. It raises the burdon of proof so that flimsy lawsuits will not be permitted, but actual, real cases go through. Including Government prosicutions.
Also even the BATFE said that gun lookup's do not mean there has been a crime. "Sold 52 guns to criminals" really means, the BATFE was requested to provide current status of the guns legality. Be it during a traffic stop, search of the home, or any number of perfectly legal activities, NOT because all of them were used in a crime.

I also love that they link to Brady and Million Moms and not to VPA. Could it be they dont want to let people know that even an anti-gun group thinks the AWB is worthless?

[MrBenchley]

25. All that outrage and not a fact in sight

"I also love that they link to Brady and Million Moms and not to VPA."
And who are the VPA when they're at home?

[Stilgar]

37. Well here is one, need more?

I would post more but I grow tired of proving you wrong. Distort as you will, or say surrrrre or what a pantload.

Reposted from slackmaster's post

The Violence Policy Center says the ban hasn't made any difference in the kinds of weapons available:

"Immediately after the 1994 law was enacted, the gun industry moved quickly to make slight, cosmetic design changes in their "post-ban" guns to evade the law. Today, gunmakers openly boast of their ability to circumvent the assault weapons ban."

(See http://www.vpc.org/press/0305officer.htm )

While their buddies at the Brady Center say:

"If the NRA gets its way, police officers on your streets will soon be outgunned by fast, efficient, people-killing machines like AK-47s and Uzis that have been banned for a decade.:

(See http://www.bradycampaign.org )

What's wrong with this picture? The positions espoused by the Bradys and the VPC cannot both be true.

Why are the gun control zealots spending MILLIONS of dollars trying to get the ban renewed on one hand, while on the other hand saying it hasn't accomplished anything?

[MrBenchley]

40. So the VPC was the VPA

What a post! Gee, I wonder what the VPC's position on assault weapons is?

"The 1994 Assault Weapons Ban will expire in September 2004 unless Congress and the President act and pass new legislation. Since the law's inception, the gun industry has worked to exploit its limitations, making "sporterized" versions of banned weapons. Tell President Bush to not only renew, but strengthen, the Assault Weapons Ban so that it truly bans all assault weapons. "

http://www.banassaultweapons.org/

"Assault Weapons and the War on Law Enforcement"

http://www.vpc.org/studies/officecont.htm

[Stilgar]

44. Sorry, can't have it both ways...

If brady says it is working and it will flood the streets with guns that shoot 12 rounds in 2 seconds if it is gone, and VPC says it has done nothing at all, who is right?

[MrBenchley]

46. Ask the VPA

when you find them

[slackmaster]

47. I KNOW! I KNOW!

The only logical explanation is that they're both wrong.

It's unusual for the Bradys and the VPC to have that big of a disconnect. Their messages usually dovetail better than that.

[Lefty48197]

58. Outrage #1: NRA people lie incessantly

"10 round semi's are out right now"? Haven't you visited some of your NRA friends who will sell you 25 round magazines? Jeez, they're everywhere.

[Hrumph]

24. I'm still waiting

for someone to explain how this is a "blacklist."

It's simply information. If these people/organizations do in fact support anti-gun causes then such a list provides just as much 'good press' as it does bad, depending on which side of the issue one happens to be on.

[Stilgar]

26. I am still wondering

why a couple hundred thousand names on a free online petition is going to mean squat against 5 million dues paying NRA members.

This is the Brady bunch plus Million Moms puting this together. If there really is a million moms, why only 25,000 signatures?

[CarinKaryn]

30. Maybe -

the Million Moms are too busy marching to spend their time sigining petitions online.
The MMMs are very active in neighbors meetings, rallies and lobbying legislators to get reasonable gun laws passed.

[MrBenchley]

34. Then too

The NRA has spent years putting together this hate list for their inbred moron hordes...

The "get on the blacklist" movement is only three weeks old...but it includes some of the best people in the country.

I'm happy to stand in any company that includes Jimmy Carter, the NAACP, The Children's Defense Fund, and theAmericans for Democratic Action. Let the RKBA crowd wallow in the gutter with Larry Pratt, Ted Nugent and the KKK.

[slackmaster]

39. I've been to a couple of MMM meetups

They all seem to be nice people, polite and willing to listen to alternative viewpoints. But as a group they are desperately ignorant about guns and gun laws. I have yet to meet one who could give a definition of "assault weapon" in her (or his) own words that had any resemblence to one of the actual legal definitions of the term.

They've ADMITTED to my face that they don't really know what is and what is not an assault weapon, but they insist they want to ban them anyway because their leaders told them they should want to ban them.

I respect people unless they give me a reason not to, but I have a lot less respect for people who do as they are told without bothering to question their marching orders.

[MrBenchley]

41. Too too funny

"But as a group they are desperately ignorant about guns and gun laws."
Bet that "nobody but we who love assault weapons knows what one truly is" line wowed them.

[CarinKaryn]

42. So you infiltrated them?

and it took a while before they found out you didn't really support their views?
And they eventually tombstoned you?

Contrats on your 1000+ posts.:party: You're very busy on DU defending your right to possess assault weapons.

[slackmaster]

45. I attended an open meeting and they invited me back

I contributed a lot to their meeting because I had a bunch of hard information that had not been passed down from their leadership.

and it took a while before they found out you didn't really support their views?

What are you talking about? Their mission is to reduce gun violence. I want to reduce gun violence. It's in the interests of gun owners like me to reduce criminal misuse of firearms.

And they eventually tombstoned you?

No. I'm still on the email distribution for the group I've met with.

Contrats on your 1000+ posts.:party: You're very busy on DU defending your right to possess assault weapons.

Thanks. I hope you will try to keep an open mind about the subject.

[Hrumph]

43. Werd!

Is it too much to ask that those who band together to push for legislation actually educate themselves on the issue???

[demsrule4life]

53. Or they are to busy playing with their guns and shooting people

Barbara Lipscomb, 48, was arrested at her home in Capitol Heights at 7 a.m. on a charge of assault with intent to kill in a Jan. 26 incident that left a 21-year-old man paralyzed from the waist down. Police recovered three handguns and a TEC-9 submachine gun at her home

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A40501-2000Jul13¬Found=true

[MrBenchley]

27. Gee, just ask Wayne LaPierre, the NRA's Grand Wizard

"But National Rifle Association Executive Vice-President Wayne LaPierre said of the list last week; "Our members don't want to buy their songs, don't want to go to their movies, don't want to support their careers." "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20031029/od_nm/blacklist_dc_2

[Romulus]

28. so...

issue-driven boycotts are morally supect?

[MrBenchley]

36. Who the hell are you trying to kid, rom?

This is the scum of the earth bitching about decent people like the American Psychological Association, the Children's Defense Fund, the League of Women Voters and the National PTA because they're decent people and not lunatics.

[leanings]

52. I posted this in another thread.

Unfortunately the website is pretty typical of the Brady Campaign/MMM. The two "outrages" listed are both, at the mininum, very misleading statements. I don't really see the big deal about a "blacklist", either; does anybody here support corporations or individuals that give support to causes you're against? I try not to.

The website is also a pretty typical attempt by MMM and the BC to make it appear as tho some new grassroots pro-control group has come to be. The website is "Sponsored by StoptheNRA.com", which in fact is nothing more than a BC/MMM shill.

People talk about the NRA being funded by the gun companies, but it seems to me that there are 3.6 million members who pay $35 a year to belong. In addition, there are far more grass roots pro-gun orgs than pro-control. If gun control is a winning, popular cause, why does the NRA have such broad based financial support while the pro-control folks have to depend mainly on grants from foundations and are unable to sustain organizations other than VPC and BC/MMM?

[Hrumph]

55. Don't forget, leanings,

that the VPC itself is only a child organization of the brady bunch - Supposedly, it's their public policy research arm, or some such.

[FlashHarry]

59. Locking

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