GUNS IN THE NEWS--November 5, 2003

[MrBenchley]

As CO Liberal sez:
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[MrBenchley]

1. Undercover DEA Agent Shot in Drug Deal (PA)

"PHILADELPHIA - A federal agent was shot during an undercover drug deal Tuesday afternoon, and the suspect apparently killed himself after fleeing beneath a pier where the deal went down, police said.
The Drug Enforcement Administration agent, William Hocker, 51, was reported in stable condition at a hospital with shoulder and face wounds, said Normadene Murphy, an agency spokeswoman.
"They were going to buy some drugs from him," Police Commissioner Sylvester Johnson said. "The person pulled a gun out and shot the DEA agent." "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031105/ap_on_re_us/brf_agent_shot_1

[MrBenchley]

2. Double Shooting In Callahan Leaves One Dead (FL)

"Anthony Dawkins of Callahan remains in critical condition at Shands Jacksonville after being shot Monday night by his estranged wife, who then killed herself.
Authorities told Eyewitness News that the wife called 911, and then put the phone down as her husband came home. Dawkins found her there in violation of a restraining order.
According to police, the 911 dispatcher heard the couple's argument and the shooting as it happened. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20031105/lo_wjxt/1861865

[MrBenchley]

3. Two shot dead in Washington County bar (PA)

"A convicted drug dealer awaiting a court-ordered payment of more than $65,000 from the Washington County district attorney was found dead yesterday along with another man inside a North Strabane tavern.
County Coroner S. Timothy Warco said Fred Brilla, 50, of Canonsburg, died of a gunshot to the head. Martin J. Brahler, 40, a bartender from Peters, also was found shot dead, also in the head.
The U.S. Supreme Court in September refused to hear District Attorney John C. Pettit's arguments against paying Brilla, who had sued the prosecutor in federal court because possessions taken during 1989 police raids had not been returned to him. "

http://www.post-gazette.com/neigh_washington/20031105murder1105p1.asp

[MrBenchley]

4. Masked Man Fires Shot Inside Carrick Bar (PA)

"Police said a man hiding behind a mask held up dozens of people inside a popular Carrick bar.
According to police, a man carrying a gun walked into Hooples bar on Brownsville Road just after midnight. Once inside the bar, the man shot the bar mirror and took off with the cash register."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20031105/lo_wtae/1862272

[MrBenchley]

5. Fatal Shooting In SE Albuquerque

"Gunfire Tuesday morning in southeast Albuquerque left one man dead and another hospitalized.
Police believe it began with a disagreement between several people on the 1000 block of Walter, Coal and Edith. "


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=375&ncid=375&e=2&u=/ibsys/20031105/lo_koat/1862174

[MrBenchley]

6. Employee Shot, Killed Behind Sub Shop (FL)

"A 24-year-old man taking out the trash at a Miami-Dade County sandwich shop was shot and killed by two men this morning, police say.
Cornelius Austin was behind the Miami Subs at 19200 N.W. 2nd Ave. when two men approached him, police say. One of the men reportedly shot Austin then both men fled. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20031105/lo_wplg/1862548

[MrBenchley]

7. Pastor Fatally Shot During Church Service (FL)

"Fort Pierce police are searching for a man who they said entered a church Tuesday night and fatally shot the pastor during a service.
Police said the suspect is no stranger to the church's congregation. Officials named the suspect as Aaron Anderson, the husband of the church's assistant pastor.
Eyewitnesses said they heard Anderson confront Mobley about an affair with Anderson's wife. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20031105/lo_wpbf/1862838

[CO Liberal]

8. Yet There Are People Who Want CCW Holders.....

...to be able to bring their guns in to churches.

**** shaking head in disbelief ***

[Romulus]

9. ummm

did the shooter have a FL CCW? :shrug:

Would he have been eligible for one? :shrug:

[MrBenchley]

11. Yeah, that's all this tragedy needed...

A few innocent bystanders mowed down too.....

[RoeBear]

19. You're right...

...it's much better to just let the pastor die without anyone having a chance to protect him.

[RoeBear]

18. Apparently you shook something loose.

WHY would carrying a CCW into a church bother you? If I carry everywhere I go why should I leave it in the car when I go to church?

[demsrule4life]

10. Intruder dies at hands of armed East Sider

A 21-year-old man was shot and killed late Saturday on the East Side when he broke through a woman's front window at the Morningview Oaks Apartments.



http://news.mysanantonio.com/story.cfm?xla=saen&xlb=310&xlc=1078777&xld=310

Here is a lady that did'nt believe the anti's hooey that home invasions only happen in the fantasies of gun owners.

"Dying isnt much of a living"

[MrBenchley]

12. Off-Duty Officer Reportedly Shot By Thieves (MI)

"An off-duty Detroit police officer was reportedly shot after three thieves tried to steal his car early Wednesday morning.
The shooting occurred on Burt Road on Detroit's west side, Local 4 reported. The officer was shot in the leg, and he shot back, killing one of the robbers, the station reported. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20031105/lo_wdiv/1862350

[MrBenchley]

13. Chase Ends When Suspects Crash Into Police Cruiser (TX)

"A woman's trip to a convenience store near her southwest Houston apartment turned into a frightening ordeal when she was held at gunpoint and robbed as she returned home.
"I left my apartment and got into my car and went to the store. I saw the gentleman sitting on the curb when I was leaving. When I came back they were still there," according to the victim.
She said that is when two juveniles and an adult man followed her through the parking lot of her apartment complex at Dairy Ashford and Westheimer, pointed a gun at her head and demanded that she hand over everything. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=320&ncid=320&e=1&u=/ibsys/20031105/lo_kprc/1862929

[MrBenchley]

14. "At Least Four Shot at Boston Bus Station"

"BOSTON - At least four people were shot Wednesday inside a city bus station, and a gunman was arrested, authorities said.
At least one of the victims was seriously wounded, said Joe Pesaturo, a spokesman for the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority.
Police said they believed four people were shot, while MBTA officials said they believed there were five shooting victims. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031105/ap_on_re_us/bus_station_shooting_1

[beevul]

15. GEEZER PULLS HIS GUN ON MUGGER

November 5, 2003 -- A pistol-packing, 80-year-old Bronx man was arrested on gun charges after he tried to turn the tables on a mugger who beat him and stole his Social Security money, authorities said yesterday.

Feisty Lester Campbell - a retired security guard who cops said was carrying a hidden, unlicensed .38-caliber handgun - cashed his $262 Social Security check near his home on East 139th Street in Mott Haven at 10 a.m. Monday.

A husky 6-foot-tall mugger followed him into his building and onto an elevator.

As the elevator headed to his floor, the man pounced on Campbell, throwing him to the floor and hitting him in the head and body.

EDIT:forgot link

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/10028.htm

[beevul]

16. Cop fired in gun case is back on job

"A Tucson police lieutenant fired after he was federally indicted on a charge of making a false statement on a firearm-purchase form will return to work this morning - more than one month after a jury cleared him."

snip

"The case stemmed from Lara's purchase of a Glock handgun Nov. 21 for a friend who manages an apartment complex. He pleaded not guilty June 26 and was acquitted Sept. 18 - after a jury deliberated about two hours."

snip

"Although Lara's superiors decided he still violated three general orders in the incident, which came to light after the firearm he purchased was found in a drug bust, the acquittal showed he hadn't been untruthful, the act for which the agency fired him, she said."


http://www.azstarnet.com/star/Wed/31105LTREHIRED.html

[beevul]

17. dupe

n/t