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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:19 PM
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NRA Blacklist Is A Badge of Honor
More fun with this racist bunch and their idiotic enemies list....

"Fannie Flagg? Dr. Joyce Brothers? Sandy Duncan?

This can't be a National Rifle Association blacklist. It sounds like an old guest roster from "Match Game '75."

Instead of putting the fear of God — or Moses, as portrayed by Charlton Heston — into people, the list is putting them into hysterics and has made the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action a momentary laughingstock.

Not only does the list lack firepower, but it also has started a new trend of Wanting On. Thousands of people have written to the pro-gun lobby, begging to be blacklisted. "

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001782174_brodeur04m.html
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:23 PM
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1. And more....
Liberal columnist Ellen Goodman:

"But this is too much. This hurts my feelings. The leaders of the National Rifle Association have put out a 19-page blacklist, a veritable Who's Who of opponents, an alphabet list of enemies, and there wasn't a Goodman to be found.

How can they do this to me? This is a leadership that has refined paranoia into an art form. The honchos of the NRA actually believe that keeping assault weapons off the streets is the first step to wresting the flintlock out of Charlton Heston's "cold, dead hands."

But the enemies are my kind of people. The American Medical Association. The National Education Association. The League of Women Voters, for gawdsake. The list of "anti-gun" religious groups is nothing if not ecumenical, ranging from the U.S. Catholic Conference to the B'nai B'rith to the United Methodist Church.

The corporate blacklist, for that matter, includes every one of my food groups, from Stonyfield Yogurt to Sara Lee cheesecake. As for the list of individuals in and out of Hollywood, they picked the president and first lady -- of "The West Wing" that is. They listed Harvey Weinstein, the old pacifist producer of "Kill Bill," Sean Connery, whose 007 career involved more weapons than your average weekend gun show, and Britney Spears, whose looks could kill. They listed John McEnroe, whose temper is positively ballistic and Julia Child, who wields a mean kitchen knife.

Before someone did an obit-check, the original list even included some dead people, from Herblock to Ann Landers. But Moi? They didn't even send me a greeting card, which is just as well since they also put Hallmark on their (don't) dance card."

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/1103/03special_goodman.html
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:23 PM
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2. More Proof That The NRA Is a Joke
A bad joke being perpetrated on the American people by the assholes in their leadership positions. People like LaPierre and Nugent are not to be admired - they are to be mocked and humiliated for the moronic assholes they are.
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BallaFaseke Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. The NRA has had a blacklist for years
If you want on it go ahead, just don't become friends with me.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:32 PM
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8. It's been scum even longer than that.
They've been an extremist disgrace for many many years..
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:33 PM
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11. I Think That's One Thing You Don't Have to Worry About, BallaFaseke
:-)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. Exactly so...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:26 PM
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3. From the BBC....
"An attempt by America's National Rifle Association (NRA) to "out" Hollywood stars who support gun control appears to have backfired.
"If those listed are so embarrassed or ashamed about NRA documenting their anti-freedom position," the NRA website says, "perhaps they should reconsider their positions."
But, far from being embarrassed, several of the stars have said they are proud of being on an NRA blacklist.
And others have written to the NRA complaining that they had been left off. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3238513.stm
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LibLabUK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:39 PM
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14. Oops!
Hehe... the whole world is laughing at the NRA.

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. And deservedly so....
What a bunch of racist imbeciles.
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CarinKaryn Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:27 PM
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4. I signed up!
Everyone should ask to be on the blacklist. It IS a badge of honor. It is also an issue which will show the American Public how stupid and hateful the NRA is. Its a list of people and organizations who support the ideals of Americans.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:31 PM
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7. Me too!
I am proud to stand with the groups and people singled out on this list.
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BallaFaseke Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. Good for you!
Nobody give a rats rear end.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:33 PM
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10. More like a badge of humor
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 12:34 PM by slackmaster
The list is a marketing ploy by the Brady Center. The obvious purpose of http://www.nrablacklist.com is raising funds.

It's a risky move for gun control proponents, a divisive strategy more likely to result in increased membership for the NRA.

Let us know when they actually publish the list somewhere.

BTW I've signed up Pol Pot, Emperor Hirohito, Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler, and Augusto Pinochet several times.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:37 PM
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12. Hand us ANOTHER laugh, slack
"It's a risky move for gun control proponents, a divisive strategy more likely to result in increased membership for the NRA."
Yeah, surrrrrrrrrrrre.....

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:44 PM
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18. Even mentioning the word "gun" makes people think about the issue
The proper goal of gun control should be only to reduce violent crime and accidental injuries and deaths. All this ridiculous divisive political posturing accomplishes is to harden the attitudes people already have.

Extremists like MrBenchley and CarinKaryn serve the Republican Party by creating a misperception that Democrats want to take away peoples' guns.

Look at it this way: The more kinds of guns you say you want to ban, license, tax, or otherwise stigmatize the more gun owners you piss off. The 1994 federal "assault weapon" ban barely passed in a Democratically controlled Congress with a Democratic President. Without major compromises like the 10-year sunset clause it never would have passed. But it only pissed off a small number of gun owners because most people don't think their firearm is an assault weapon.

If you take CarinKaryn's view that all military firearms, past and present should be banned then you affect a much wider audience. Taking it to the absurd extreme, anyone who proposed banning all firearms wouldn't stand a chance of ever holding the Presidency.

The Democratic Party should retreat to its 2000 platform position with a few clarifications, and add a plank that clearly states we support the right of law-abiding individuals to keep and bear any kind of arms for any lawful purpose. Let's not sacrifice our chances on the holy altar of gun control extremism.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:00 PM
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33. Who the hell are you trying to kid, slack?
"Extremists like MrBenchley and CarinKaryn serve the Republican Party"
Whereas slack and the rest of the crowd that's pushing the Republicans' ACTUAL agenda on the issue its loudest and most extreme splinter group favors...(the crowd that also posts every bit of right wing horseshit here it can dig up) is doing what?

Hand us another BIG BIG laugh.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:30 PM
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38. Let's see some proof of your assertion
"...slack and the rest of the crowd that's pushing the Republicans' ACTUAL agenda on the issue..."

This is one of the rare occasions where Benchley has posted an alleged fact that is subject to falsfication.

Let's see it Benchley - What IS the Republicans' agenda (with links to authoritative sources), and show links to posts on DU that demonstrate that my agenda is the same as theirs.

(I know MrBenchley will not do this, but it will be fun watching him try to change the subject.)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #38
42. Gee, slack, who the hell are you trying to kid?
From one of the soources the RKBA crowd is always dredging dreck from:

"The second-highest ranking Republican in the House believes renewal of a decade-old ban on so-called "assault weapons" is in doubt, primarily because he doesn't think the votes are there to extend it.
House Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Texas, who doesn't support a reauthorization of the 1994 weapons ban and voted in 1995 to repeal it, has been one of the law's staunchest critics, saying it has done little to reduce crime and has instead robbed law-abiding Americans of their right to keep and bear arms. "

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32620

"Republicans this week open a new push to make it impossible for Wisconsin citizens and local governments to sue gun manufacturers over shooting deaths or injuries, and the new GOP majority in the Legislature makes passage of it likely this time."

http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/apr03/135525.asp

Here's the GOP platform...indistinguishable from the crap the RKBA crowd has been peddling on this board:

"We defend the constitutional right to keep and bear arms, and we affirm the individual responsibility to safely use and store firearms. Because self-defense is a basic human right, we will promote training in their safe usage, especially in federal programs for women and the elderly. A Republican administration will vigorously enforce current gun laws, neglected by the Democrats, especially by prosecuting dangerous offenders identified as felons in instant background checks. Although we support background checks to ensure that guns do not fall into the hands of criminals, we oppose federal licensing of law-abiding gun owners and national gun registration as a violation of the Second Amendment and an invasion of privacy of honest citizens. Through programs like Project Exile, we will hold criminals individually accountable for their actions by strong enforcement of federal and state firearm laws, especially when guns are used in violent or drug-related crimes. With a special emphasis upon school safety, we propose the crackdown on youth violence explained elsewhere in this platform. "

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/july-dec00/platform3.html

And which party was that ramming through the CCW law in Missouri despite the voters expressed wishes and the veto of the Democratic governor? The Republican party.

"Last year, in an effort to understand NRA spending habits, the Campaign for a Progressive Future researched NRA expenditures during the 2000 election cycle. We discovered the following:
* NRA members ran 52 get-out-the-vote phone banks -- all on behalf of Republican candidates.
* The NRA did not endorse a single Democratic candidate in a competitive House or Senate race.
* By a ratio of 317-to-1, the NRA spent its independent expenditure money on Republicans in 2000.
* The NRA also made huge soft money donations to the national Republican Party apparatus (perhaps that's why the NRA is so hostile to Sen. John McCain's campaign finance reforms).
In short, the NRA in 2000 was just another Republican special interest group; indeed, among the GOP's biggest, loudest, wealthiest, and meanest special interest groups. "

http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/5608http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/5608

"In any other time or place you'd be looking for a lynching mob." The crowd responded with "let's do it" and "I've got a rope."
-- The Grand Rapids Press, October 17, 2000 quoting NRA president Charlton Heston and describing audience reaction.


"Mainstream America is counting on you to draw your sword and fight for them. These people have precious little time to and resources to battle misguided Cinderella attitudes, the fringe propaganda of the homosexual coalition, the feminists who preach that it is a divine duty for woman to hate men, blacks who raise a militant fist with one hand while they seek preference with the other..."
-- NRA president Charlton Heston
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #42
47. Who is this "RKBA crowd" you keep referring to?
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 02:59 PM by slackmaster
It sounds a lot like bigoted language. Just like when a right-wing fanatic talks about the "tree-hugging crowd" or the "animal rights crowd".

However I will concede that now that I've read it I don't see anything at all wrong with the GOP's platform. It's written more clearly than the DNC's. Certainly less ambigouous.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:21 PM
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49. Gee, slack
You didn't have any problem figuring THAT out when you jumped into the thread addressed to "DU gun nuts" But somehow now you can't imagine who could possibly be referred to.

"It sounds a lot like bigoted language."
It sounds more like you're getting REALLY desperate.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #49
60. It was obvious from context that "gun nuts" was not meant as a slam
In that thread.

It's equally obvious that you and CarinKaryn always mean it as a slam - Gun nuts are some kind of people that you simply cannot stand, yet neither of you have the courage (or perhaps the writing ability) to express in clear terms WHY you despise them.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #60
64. Gee, was it?
"It's equally obvious that you and CarinKaryn always mean it as a slam"
So obviously this "I have no idea who you could be referring to" mystery act was just so much hooey.

"Gun nuts are some kind of people that you simply cannot stand, yet neither of you have the courage (or perhaps the writing ability) to express in clear terms WHY you despise them."
Gee, slack,, pardon me if I doubt this mystery act too.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. I'm just seeking an honest and candid statement from you
What happened earlier in your life that caused your hatred of gun owners?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #65
68. And going about it
dishonestly and with a preposterous amount of melodrama.

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Spoonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #60
76. I believe that the two of them
are one in the same.

A Lott - Rosh type thing
(Yea, sorry to take the wind out of your sail. You see we don't *need* Lott's horseshit to back up our stance. No matter how many times you attempt to make that inference, it's always good for a chuckle.)

If not, the writting style has been rapidly adopted by one of them.

Maybe it's just a preparatory move if you know what I mean.
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BallaFaseke Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. What about Idi Amin and all those South African Aparthied guys? n/t
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. Gonna sign them up too?
Phony names--shows the RKBA crowd is both desperate and scared. The ugly truth about their extremist and racist lobbying group is coming out.
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BallaFaseke Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. Oh so you support disarming black folks?
Nice. Real nice.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #20
26. Could you get even MORE lame, bella?
But it's the NRA that is made up of racist scum like Ted Nugent and Jeff Cooper...and every bigot in America trupmets this gun rights horseshit. And that's why every significant group actually working for civil rights and tolerance ended up on Wayne LaPierre's enemies list.
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BallaFaseke Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. And the Brady Camp doesn't have racists??? n/t
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #28
32. No, it doesn't....
Whereas the RKBA crowd is thick with them...in fact, there's not a racist piece of shit large or small that can be found that ISN'T trumpeting "gun rights" horseshit.
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BallaFaseke Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. BS! Prove it
The anti-gun movement is full of racists. All they want to do is deprive poor people-mostly minorities- of personal protection.

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #34
35. You first
I've certainly proved that every racist piece of shit anyone can think of is trumpeting that gun rights crap...and that liberal progrrewssive Democrats support gun control.
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Stilgar Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #35
39. Like these racists
http://www.jpfo.org/

Why would jews want firearms, they must be racist.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #39
43. Gee, and here they are
pimping for the Confederate swastika....

http://www.jpfo.org/unpopularsp-0302.htm

Are you telling us there are NO racist Jews?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #39
44. Gee, and here they are
pimping for the Confederate swastika....

http://www.jpfo.org/unpopularsp-0302.htm

Are you telling us there are NO racist Jews?
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Stilgar Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #44
53. oh thats good
Say the guys belief in a confederate flag is to honor his family members that were in the civil war to him being racist.

Nice one, even I am not that mean.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #53
55. Hand us a BIG laugh
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Stilgar Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #55
58. Just read more of the site
obviously you didnt because what you linked to was a list of articles by other people sent in to them. This list of articles by people to explain there stance on different things not the JPFO's stance.

This is not endorced by them. That one article by someone else is not them. IF you bothered to read the site you would know that.

So, show me in there where they are racists, since that article did not mention in any way being racist AND was not offical JPFO mission statement.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #58
67. So now you're telling us
they posted a link to a loony pimping for the Confederate flag but they don't endorse the story?

Ho-kay.
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Spoonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #67
77. Hey, I've got an idea
why don't you use their search engine to look up the Confederate flag, and then use the results to "prove" your point AGAIN.
HAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAA

Please I need another good laugh!!!
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Spoonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #32
73. Excuse me
"there's not a racist piece of shit large or small that can be found that ISN'T trumpeting "gun rights" horseshit."

DU Rules
BIGOTRY

Do not post racist, sexist, homophobic, ethnic, anti-religious, or anti-atheist bigotry. Unambiguous expressions of bigotry will be deleted, and will often result in the immediate banning of the individual responsible.

If it is not clear whether a comment is bigoted, we will generally give the benefit of the doubt and assume the least-bigoted interpretation. However, individuals who repeatedly post borderline-bigoted comments will be considered bigots and will be removed.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #16
21. Phony names on a phony list - Nothing wrong with that
I think I'll write a Perl script to generate random ones next.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #21
27. Phony names from a phony cause
The RKBA crowd's entire argument is built on lies, hate and horseshit...and nothing shows it better than this.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #13
25. Yes, also Tom Metzger and a few other KKK figures
David Duke probably supports disarming blacks.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #25
29. DOES he, slack?

"The major Broadcast TV networks or the many Cable TV stations are owned and controlled by the enemies of our heritage. They push the entire liberal agenda including: gun control, affirmative action, forced-integration, taxpayer-financed welfare illegitimacy, massive immigration, racial miscegenation, and, of course, big government and the so-called New World Order."

http://www.duke.org/writings/internet.html
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #29
37. Now look who's pimping for racist scumbags
I never thought I'd see a "liberal, progressive Democrat" advertising David Duke's Web site.

Pathetic, MrBenchley.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #37
45. You are....
"I never thought I'd see a "liberal, progressive Democrat" advertising David Duke's Web site."
But we all see somebody pimping David Duke's CONTENT trying to pass himself off as a "liberal, progressive Democrat"...and not fooling much of anybody.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. Are They All Close Friends Of Yours???
Is that why you're signing up for things on their behalf?

:-)
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LibLabUK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. Hehe
Barrett probably sold them arms :)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #15
22. It's called thuggery
When you don't have truth or justice on your side, you have to resort to ugly tactics like that.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. Let us know when the Bradys publish their bogus list
LOL!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. I don't follow your reasoning MrB - Anyone else care to weigh in?
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 01:43 PM by slackmaster
How is that post "pimping for the NRA"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=19938&mesg_id=20261&page=

You're not making any sense, Benchley.

Does anyone agree with MrB that I was pimping for the NRA there?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #36
40. What are you doing here? Pimping for the NRA
What were you doing yesterday? The same, while denying it.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:41 PM
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41. Empty accusation
Benchley, you have no basis for accusing me of "pimping for the NRA".

I've never cited a single NRA source for information.

I've never quoted NRA propaganda.

I've never written in defense of the NRA or its board or its members.

You are full of shit. End of story.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #41
46. "I've never written in defense of the NRA or its board or its members."
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 02:55 PM by MrBenchley
How many posts from you doing that in this thread alone? Nine at least....

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #46
48. Nothing I've written here is supportive of the NRA, Benchley
Maybe you need some reading glasses or something.

All I have done is make fun of the Brady Campaign's ridiculous fund-raising drive.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #48
50. Yeah, and Wayne LaPierre is the Queen of the May
Bald-faced mendacity is always amusing to see...and yours is no exception.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #50
61. Still waiting for real evidence that I'm "pimping" for NRA
Got facts?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #15
23. A gun control freak on Usenet signed me up without my permission
So why not respond in kind?
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #10
51. I recieved an email from them today
thanking Rick Loveguns for putting his name on the list. Wonder how long it will be before I get an email asking for money.
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #51
52. Wow, that did'nt take long at all
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 03:52 PM by demsrule4life


Dear Member of the NRA Blacklist,

There are now over 65,000 of us. Just three weeks ago, there were none. That's right, 65,000 people have joined nrablacklist.com and asked to have their names added to that "honor roll." We think by next week we will be close to 100,000. This is an unprecedented accomplishment and we are not stopping there.

We need your help now. We are launching a television advertising campaign to shine a bright light on the activities of the NRA. Every dollar you contribute will go right into that campaign. Every dollar. Please contribute whatever you can. The more you contribute the more advertising we can buy.

Here's why the need is urgent: The NRA is about to try to persuade the Senate to pass an outrageous bill that would slam the courthouse door shut on the victims of gun crimes.

The NRA wants to legally immunize reckless gun dealers like Bull's Eye -- the Tacoma, Washington gun dealer that armed the DC snipers who killed 12 people.

And that wasn't the only gun on Bull's Eye's shelves that came to be in the possession of criminals.

In 1998, four gunmen ran into a Tacoma restaurant and killed five people, wounding four others. When police searched one of their homes, they found an assault rifle sold by Bull's Eye.

And remember Buford Furrow Jr. -- the maniac who shot up a Jewish Center in Los Angeles, wounding 13 children? His gun came from Bull's Eye.

The police have linked 52 guns sold by Bull's Eye to homicides, kidnappings, assaults and other crimes.

What does the NRA think should happen to Bull's Eye? Nothing. That's right -- absolutely nothing. As its top priority, the NRA wants the Senate to pass a bill that will allow Bull's Eye to keep doing exactly what it has been doing. Yes, it's hard to believe. If the NRA has its way, Congress will soon pass -- and President Bush has said he will sign -- this bill giving gun manufacturers and dealers total immunity from civil lawsuits. That means the surviving victims of the DC snipers won't be able to sue Bull's Eye for its obvious negligence. This means
the gun business will enjoy a legal freedom that no other industry has ever gained.

Outraged? You should be.

So here is what we are going to do about it.

We have been advertising in newspapers and we are going to continue that. In fact, there is an advertisement in today's New York Times.
There will be more newspaper ads this week and next.

But now we are moving to a new level -- next week we will begin a TV advertising campaign. We mean to turn even brighter lights of truth on the NRA. That's why we need your help now.

Many use the internet and have seen our sites. Newspaper readers have seen our ads. But television reaches the largest audience. When you see the commercials that you have helped us make, you will see how far we've come -- and how big a difference we are making.

The NRA may have their politicians -- for now. But we've got the momentum and we have you and your friends. With enough friends and enough outrage, we can even have victory. Please forward the e-mail to your many friends and family.

You can count on us to fight and not stop. That's a promise. Please give what you can.

All best,

The NRA Blacklist

Please click here to share this e-mail with your friends and family and coworkers.

nrablacklist
The links to where to send your money to didnt come out on this. If you havent joined the list and would like to see this email, pm me and I will forward it to you.


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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #52
54. Sounds good to me, dems...
But then I'm not pimping for the GOP and the NRA.
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #54
56. Might sound good to you
but it is still a deceifull way to make a mailing list.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #56
57. I don't think so
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #57
59. Kind of make you wonder where the term
useful idiots came from. Before you bitch I'am talking about everyone that put their name on the list thinking they were getting on the NRA "blacklist".
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #59
62. Gee, dems
Here's the petition they signed.

http://www.nrablacklist.com/petition.html

The page to get to that page says CLEARLY...

"If you would like to help us, please click here and contribute whatever you can. The contributions will be used 100% for an advertising campaign that begins this week. Thank you so much.
This website is in no way affiliated with the NRA. It is indeed designed to oppose everything the NRA stands for, as part of the campaign to stoptheNRA.com. Contact us at feedback@nrablacklist.com."

http://www.nrablacklist.com/

"everyone that put their name on the list thinking they were getting on the NRA "blacklist""
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!! That's REALLY funny, dems.

Now if you want to talk "misleading," the last time I got an NRA solicitation, it contained a letter from Charlton Heston implying I had already signed up but forgotten to send my dues. According to my local postmaster, it just skirted "mail fraud" by an eyeblink or two.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #62
63. Hold your horses MrBenchley
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 05:04 PM by slackmaster
MrBenchley wrote:

"...the last time I got an NRA solicitation..."

If you are a progressive, liberal Democrat then where the hell did the NRA get YOUR name and address, MrB? It sounds like that wasn't the first solicitation either. You're on the NRA's "white" list!

They sure as hell didn't get it from the Democratic National Committee, the Sierra Club, NOW, the Brady Campaign, the White Rose Society, the Book of the Month Club, your college alumni association, your local garden club, etc. And they certainly didn't send them to everyone who lives in New Jersey.

Is there something you're not telling us?

Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Republican Party, MrBenchley?

:evilgrin:

(Watch this thread sink like a rock.)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #63
66. Jeepers, slack
Ever buy any sporting goods through the mail? Ever buy anything through the mail?

"If you are a progressive, liberal Democrat then where the hell did the NRA get YOUR name and address, MrB?"
Gee, you mean you need to be told those racists are also imbeciles? Grover Norquist and Wayne LaPierre bedazzle you with their brainpower, do they?

"Is there something you're not telling us?"
Yeah, I told them to piss off and tried to report them for mail fraud.

"Watch this thread sink like a rock."
Why?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #66
69. What kind of "sporting goods" did you buy through the mail?
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 05:42 PM by slackmaster
From whom? What kind of supplier would give information to the NRA?

Cabela's? Sportsman's Guide? TAPCO? Brownell's? :D

And why did you authorize them to use your name and address for marketing purposes? Don't you ever un-check those little boxes that authorize use of your name for "valuable product offers" etc.?

I buy stuff by mail-order all the time, including gun parts, parts kits, accessories, reloading components, and ammunition, and I haven't ever received a solicitation to join the NRA by mail. Not once. I'm not on the NRA's mailing list even though I've owned guns for over 20 years. I've attended rifle matches and had annual memberships at shooting ranges. And my name and address are listed in the San Diego phone directory.

You spend so much time on this board it's hard to believe you ever go outside. Tell us about your "sporting goods".

Yeah, I told them to piss off and tried to report them for mail fraud.

Yeah, surrrrrre you did.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #69
70. Gee, slack
What the hell business is it of yours what sporting goods I bought through the mail?

"I buy stuff by mail-order all the time, including gun parts, parts kits, accessories, and ammunition, and I haven't ever received a solicitation to join the NRA by mail."
Yeah, and I am on "ignore."
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #70
72. You were on Ignore - stop dodging the question
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 05:52 PM by slackmaster
How do you think the NRA came into possession of your real name and mailing address?
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Spoonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #66
78. "mail fraud"
So I guess the "facts" you present on gun control are as valid as that "charge".

Hmmmm I'm so glad the real world knows what reality is.

Mail fraud for a mass mail campaign?

I guess the all those credit card companies better not let those retainer fees lapse.
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Withergyld Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:36 PM
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71. The Pink Pistols have their own "blacklist"
Do you think the people will want to get on their blacklist too??
http://www.pinkpistols.org/antigun.html

It looks about the same as the NRA blacklist
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #71
74. So Fred Phelps is okay, but Barbara Boxer isn't?????
This deserves its own thread.....
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #74
75. They don't say that Barbara Boxer isn't "OK"
Only that she's anti-gun. And that is an undisputable fact.

MrBenchley, I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding about the Pink Pistols' list. They're not saying that anti-gun people are bad, only that they are anti-gun.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #75
79. Gee
They're calling for a boycott. That certainly says to me that they don't think she's okay.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #79
80. No, that is not correct
They're saying she is anti-gun, which is true.

They are not saying she is not a good person.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 03:42 PM
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81. "lock-and-load lug nuts of the NRA hierarchy"
Hilarious column...

"Did the NRA's buckshot bumpkins really need to make a formal list of those who support antigun positions in order to include the American Trauma Society, the Children's Defense Fund or Coretta (misspelled by the NRA as Coreta) Scott King, whose husband was gunned down?
Yet some poor mope at the NRA, amazingly, had to assemble the names of 510 organizations and individuals seen as enemies. Many supported the efforts by Handgun Control Inc. to resist any attempt to repeal the Brady Act, which concerns gun registration (duh!), and/or the assault weapons ban, as if America needs a Tech-9 in every pot.
These are such horrible views to hold?
It's wrong to support strict gun registration? And to think that allowing homicidal morons to run around with access to assault weapons - such as, oh, the Columbine High School killers - is dubious public policy?
Jeepers, it doesn't take much for the NRA to put a black spot next to your name. "

http://www.tampatrib.com/MGAVU5CGSMD.html
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-03 01:44 PM
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82. NRA list leaves off real enemies
Great column....

"But what struck me about this exhaustive cataloging of foes is that the NRA's list failed to single out the people who hurt them the worst.
I'm talking about people like Jay Levin of suburban Boca Raton.
Levin is the homeowner protecting his castle with his firearm -- can't get any more NRA sanctioned than that.
However, Levin lives in Boca Del Mar, in a community devoid of violent crimes, making gun ownership a disproportionate response to safety concerns, and a prescription for the kind of tragedy that occurred.
The NRA promotes the notion that gun ownership prevents crime. But Levin stands charged with a deadly crime, a testament to the notion that fewer guns, not more, make communities safer."

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/auto/epaper/editions/sunday/local_news_f36b0ff666ee12b800e0.html


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