Police: NC nursing home shooting kills 6, hurts 3

[TWiley]

CARTHAGE, N.C. – A gunman opened fire at a North Carolina nursing home Sunday, killing six and wounding at least two others, police said.

The gunman was also injured before he was apprehended by police after the 10 a.m. shooting at Pinelake Health and Rehab in the town of Carthage, Carthage Police Chief Chris McKenzie told television stations WRAL in Raleigh and WTVD in Durham. A police officer was also among the injured.

Gretchen Kelly, spokeswoman at Moore Regional Hospital, said six people were brought to the hospital from the nursing home about 60 miles southwest of Raleigh, but she wouldn't release further details on their injuries or conditions. It also wasn't clear if any of those brought to the hospital were among the dead.

McKenzie said the man wasn't a patient at the nursing home but didn't offer further details on what the gunman's motive might have been.

A nursing home Web site said the facility that opened in 1993 has 90 beds, including 20 for those with Alzheimer's disease.

Calls to the nursing home by the Associated Press rang unanswered Sunday, and McKenzie didn't immediately return a message.

Story Here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/nursing_home_shooting

[Hoopla Phil]

1. Another rampage in a "Gun Free Zone" How can that happen?

[geckosfeet]

2. Sheesh. Darn criminal. Gun free zone and all.

Never mind that he killed six people - he violated the sanctity of a gun free zone.

[Hoopla Phil]

3. Yep. Six people that MAY be alive if not for the "Gun Free Zone" and

it's false since of security. "Gun Free Zones" to a criminal intent on killing people means "Free Kill Zone". These things do nothing but provide safe killing fields for psychos.

[Taitertots]

4. Isn't it strange that this never happens at shooting ranges or gun shows. NT

[rfranklin]

5. Yeah, if only those Alzheimer patients had been armed...

To what depths of stupidity can you bring your argument?

P.S. I own a handgun.

[bossy22]

7. agreence

the issue isnt that simple

[Taitertots]

10. Yeah, if only I had said anything remotely like that

To what depths of dishonestly can you bring your argument?

Edit:So do I

[Hoopla Phil]

15. HaHaHa. LOL

To what depths of misdirection can you bring to this issue?

P.S. So do I.

[Lint Head]

8. It is. Probably because that's where you just practice killing things.

[Taitertots]

11. No, it is not strange

Such is the economics of crime. If you make something more costly to do, people do less of it. People target gun free zones for the obvious fact that there are defenseless people inside. They don't target police stations and gun shows because the obvious fact that they are not defenseless.

[geckosfeet]

17. The issue is, that this person had the mindset and ability to "target" anyplace.

You are one short step from blaming the victims for being targets.

[Taitertots]

19. This person without question wasn't going to target "anyplace"

Why a defenseless hospital and not a police station or a gun show then?
Why is it always a limited gun area and never a gun show or a police station?

[geckosfeet]

23. Because he was in control there. He was the boss. The big man with the gun.

He could have got his ass shot up much more quickly in a police station though.

Guess we will have to wait and see why he went after a nursing home.

[Taitertots]

25. So you admit that people target areas with limited guns

Broadcasting that certain areas are going to be defenseless makes them targets.

It has less to do with "Big man with the gun" and more to do with the obvious lack of defense. Even someone on a suicide mission reacts to changes in cost. Increase the chance that someone is going to be able to offer armed defense and increase the cost of the crime.

[Hoopla Phil]

28. I blame the "gun free zones" for making defenseless victims. They don't work

but lets keep doing it anyway.

[geckosfeet]

6. Errm. Yes. MORE guns in MORE places. That's the ticket.

[Hoopla Phil]

13. Perhaps a new sign on the door is in order.

Rather than "Gun Free Zone" perhaps "Armed Guard on Duty" or "NOTICE: Staff May Be Armed". We KNOW that the "Gun Free Zone" has the opposite of the intended affect so perhaps it is time for change.

[geckosfeet]

16. They would just get bigger guns and bring more shooters.

The point is escalation won't work either.

Not sayin I know what will work, but advertising either way provides actionable information.

[Taitertots]

18. It is clear that people make decisions based on certain principles

Escalation will without question work. If you make something more expensive people will do less.

I can only imagine getting a large group of people willing to go on a killing rampage is going to be an almost impossible task.

[geckosfeet]

22. Perhaps. Case in point. Four well trained and armed police officers were killed last weekend.

I am not sure that simply having a gun is the answer. Of course that said, I would rather have one than not. But I believe that having it much less important than knowing what to do with it.

My point about escalation is that criminals will always reach for more firepower if it is available. Case in point again - drug cartels. Do you think that if we relaxed gun regulation the cartels would NOT move across the border in a very violent way?

[Taitertots]

24. Knowing what to do with it without having a gun is useless

Mexico has strict gun control. More gun control is only going to make us more like Mexico. Where the unarmed populace is at the whims of a corrupt armed government and armed drug cartels. If we disarmed the populace, the cartels would move across the border in a very violent way.

Escalation is what stopped the shooter last week. The shooter was alone, hiding in a closet with a half century old com bloc SKS. Then got the drop on the police, hardly a demonstration of firepower. More a demonstration that regardless of available firepower some people will still get a tactical advantage and kill cops.

[Hoopla Phil]

27. Drug Cartels fighting over turf is not germain to "free kill zones"

I mean "gun free zones"

[Hoopla Phil]

26. No they would seek easier targets. That's why "gun free zones" don't work.

[Hoopla Phil]

14. Funny. That sentiment was expressed in arguing against CHL laws too.

[rq4a]

21. Yes Free Machineguns is the Ticket

Free manditory machineguns is the ticket. I don't care if it stops crime or not. There should be free manditory machineguns for anyone who is legally able to own a gun and you can't say no. Heck the Swiss do it. They don't seem to have any problems with free manditory machineguns.

[slackmaster]

29. Welcome to DU, rq4a

Allow me to direct your attention to the Spell Check function (the button labelled "Check Spelling" on the posting and editing screens).

Use it.

[virginia mountainman]

9. More death and destruction in a "gun free zone"

No surprise their.... What do they call it, when someone keeps doing the same thing over and over, and expects a different result???

[davepc]

20. North Carolina law doesn't prohibit guns from nursing homes per say.

Of course the facilities own rules may prohibit firearms.

[TWiley]

31. Lots of dangerous old cockers in nursing homes. I never enter one without a bazooka

[villager]

12. so in the Gungeon, North Carolina is now a "gun free zone!?"

n/t

[TWiley]

30. It looks like 8 were murdered by gunfire now.