Interesting Rasmussen Reports survey...

[spin]

Seventy-one percent (71%) of Americans believe it is at least somewhat likely that President Obama will seek tougher gun control laws, including 43% who say it is very likely.

***snip***

While 47% see no need for new gun control laws, 43% of adults nationwide say America does need more legal restrictions. This marks a slight drop-off in support for more gun control from surveys in October and June.

The new findings come amid news reports that gun sales are up, primarily because of fears that stricter regulations may be coming.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/43_say_stricter_gun_control_very_likely_under_obama

[county worker]

1. Because of the belief that Obama will ask for more gun control laws there is a shortage of bullets.

I read an article in a local paper that the gun stores and sporting goods stores are running out of bullets and it is because the gun owners fear that bullets will be taken away. And prices are going through the roof.

It seems to me that the gun owner's own paranoia is causing them to have a problem getting bullets.

[eqfan592]

2. While that is playing a part in the ammunition shortage...

...I read another article (and I wish I had saved it because I can't seem to recall where it is that I read it) that another part is the large amount of ammunition being ordered by the military and law enforcement agencies.

But yes, there is a level of paranoia when it comes to gun owners of America right now, mainly because of the words and actions of so many in the progressive movement.

[county worker]

6. The part about the military and police orders was also in the article I read.

The thing about the progressives that want to take away bullets is that they are few in number and have no real power. Even here on DU the gun owners out number those who want to take away bullets.

[eqfan592]

8. I do hope you're right on that.

It makes our case stronger when dealing with moderate gun owners to say that the majority of Dems are NOT "gun grabbers."

[county worker]

9. The way to tell what is going on here at DU is to read all the posts after a shooting takes place.

The fights really begin then.

[krispos42]

17. It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you.

If the gun-owners hadn't gone into a buying frenzy, would that make increase gun regulation more likely, less likely, or no effect?


Or rather, how would a lack of reaction from gun owners been interpreted by the anti-gun lobby?

[damntexdem]

3. If only it were true.

But if it's on the list at all, it's WAAAAAAAAAAY down there.

[Deadric Damodred]

4. Being waaaaay down on the list...

...is still being on the list. Better to stock up now than to wait too late. The only reason the gun-grabbers call all these gun & ammo buyers "paranoid", is because they realize that there is nothing they can do once people have already purchased their guns & ammo. So in order to counter that, they try to call people "paranoid" in hopes of stopping at least some of them from purchasing what they want before it's too late. Then after a ban, when those that were called "paraoid" say "you were wrong to call me paranoid, I should have bought the cool stuff while I had the chance", the gun-grabbers will say "yep, we lied, tough shit...you want a gun? You go buy a boring ass ordinary traditional looking gun".

[iverglas]

10. I get it

You set out to demostrate paranoia ...

The only reason the gun-grabbers call all these gun & ammo buyers "paranoid", is because they realize that there is nothing they can do once people have already purchased their guns & ammo. So in order to counter that, they try to call people "paranoid" in hopes of stopping at least some of them from purchasing what they want before it's too late. Then after a ban, when those that were called "paraoid" say "you were wrong to call me paranoid, I should have bought the cool stuff while I had the chance", the gun-grabbers will say "yep, we lied, tough shit...you want a gun? You go buy a boring ass ordinary traditional looking gun".

... and a damned fine job you have done!

[rl6214]

12. Wait, correct me if I'm wrong but

It was on the then candidate Obama's website to persue more gun control, it was on Change.gov to persue more gun control, it was on whitehouse.gov to persue mor gun control, it was on the DNCs website to persue more gun control and you say it's paranoia?

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

13. Shockingly you won't receive an answer.

[JonQ]

14. You can't judge their possible future policies merely by their stated

views on what future policies should be, that's just paranoid.

[iverglas]

15. okay; you're wrong

Try reading the passage I quoted and comparing it to what you wrote.

Not much similarity, eh?


To put it simply:

It was on the then candidate Obama's website to persue more gun control, it was on Change.gov to persue more gun control, it was on whitehouse.gov to persue mor gun control, it was on the DNCs website to persue more gun control and you say it's paranoia?

No. I don't.

I say that what I quoted looks like a textbook example of paranoia. And it doesn't look much like your "question" there, friend.

[JonQ]

16. You believe it is paranoia to show concern

that Obama may act in the same way he has stated he would act in the past?

For instance, Obama said on the campaign trail that he would prefer stricter regulations on guns. Is it irrationally paranoid to assume that president Obama may be of the same opinion and may use his new clout to act on those stated beliefs?

[iverglas]

19. you believe poop tastes good?

I wouldn't want to claim that's what you just said, so I'll stick a little question mark on it, just in case you want to claim I misrepresented what you said, and then I'll say: well I was just asking, why don't you answer?

Because rest assured: I have exactly as much reason, if not more, to think that you believe poop tastes good as you have to think that I "believe it is paranoia to show concern that Obama may act in the same way he has stated he would act in the past".

You didn't say or imply the former? I didn't say or imply the latter.

How come I can see the ENTIRE PASSAGE OF PROSE that I have carefully quoted more than once, and you can only see a little bit of it each time you look at it? Through a glass darkly?

[JonQ]

20. No, I don't think that,

nor have I said anything that could give you that inclinations.

Now your turn to answer.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

23. She won't and rarely does. She's Canadian lawyer that should explain it.

[JonQ]

24. I've noticed that

[Deadric Damodred]

21. Bravo

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

22. How is that paranoia?

:shrug:

A candidate and his party stated their intentions to bring back bans and more control legislation - and those people are now (by large majority) in power. I believe their campaign statements coupled with recent proposed legislation are plenty of justification for the fear of banning certain weapons and certain ammo. In order to prepare for such an event, many people are buying up supplies they will not be able to.

Founded Fears ≠ Paranoia
Prudence ≠ Paranoia

[Tim01]

5. We stockpile because the supply has been threatened by the current administration.

Most of the higher ups in this administration have said they intend to ban some guns and ammo, starting with the president who not only said it but put it on his web site.

The fact that these plans were made public when the military was already straining the ammo companies couldn't have been any worse.

Of course there is a shortage.

[spin]

7. the impact of the shortage has caused me to restrict my hobby...

I used to enjoy shooting at least 150 handgun rounds a week at paper targets.

Now I have to ration my ammo supply.

Practice is important to maintain proficiency with a handgun.

[Tim01]

11. Recomended. Other dems should know about this. Not just us gun guys. nt

[TPaine7]

18. Recommended. n/t