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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 07:37 PM
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Another righteous shoot!!!!
Edited on Mon Jul-27-09 07:47 PM by Fire_Medic_Dave
Brinks security guard fatally shot a would-be robber in Miami, witnesses say


A Brinks security guard shot and killed a would-be robber who attacked him while he was making a routine stop at a South Miami-Dade health clinic Friday, according to witnesses.

After the 2 p.m. shooting outside the Doris Ison Health Center, 10300 SW 216th St., Miami-Dade police arrested two other suspects after a search of surrounding neighborhoods.

Miami-Dade police have not identified the dead man. Those arrested also were not identified.

"According to investigators, shots were fired when three subjects, armed with firearms, attempted to rob an armored truck crew making a pick up or delivery at the health center located at 10300 SW 216th Street,'' a Miami-Dade police statement said late Friday.

One employee of the health center, who did not want to be identified, told The Miami Herald that the shooting took place after the apparent robber attacked the Brinks security guard. The guard, said the witness, then shot the man outside the health center, which remained under lockdown for hours as police officers swarmed the area in search of the other suspects.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/sfl-brinks-shooting-miami-072509,0,4496841.story

:popcorn: Just for the use of the word righteous and what will ensue.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 07:40 PM
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1. wow -- a 'righteous' shoot - did god pull the the trigger? nt
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 07:41 PM
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3. so it's not just me -
"righteous shoot" sounded just disgusting, didn't it? wtf is wrong with people?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 07:43 PM
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4. Come on you were here for the last righteous shooting debate.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 07:40 PM
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2. "righteous shoot"
:wtf:

It may be lawful and legal. Heck, it may even have been necessary, but RIGHTEOUS?

Come on, do you worship that gun of yours?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 07:44 PM
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6. You must not have been around for the last righteous shoot debate.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 07:56 PM
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7. sorry I missed it.
:sarcasm:

can't imagine killing anyone for any reason to "righteous". Sad, even if there is no other recourse.

To kill another human being - even if they are the most heinous creature on the planet, shouldn't give a sense of satisfaction to the killer - or else they are at risk at being just as heinous, imo.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:00 PM
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8. One of the definitions of righteous is justifiable.
I agree with all your other points.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:04 PM
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11. then may I suggest
you stop using the word "righteous". It wins you no friends and empowers your enemies.

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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:05 PM
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12. If they knew it meant justifiable why would they be upset?
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eqfan592 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:07 PM
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13. Hmmm, maybe a vocabulary test should be a requirement for people...
Edited on Mon Jul-27-09 08:08 PM by eqfan592
...before the post on the boards. If you can't past the test, you can't post! We could apply the same to the 1st Amendment!

Wouldn't you love that, xchrom?
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:16 PM
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16. maybe an intelligence test
would be a better idea.

Even an idiot knows how to use a dictionary. Knowing how to use the words efficaciously is something else entirely.

But then again, I think maybe that was the OP's intent anyway.

Tweak, tweak, tweak.

Serves no positive purpose and, in fact, is detrimental to the so-called "cause".
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eqfan592 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:21 PM
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Ah yes, an intelligence test!
Fantastic idea!

*snark* :P
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:13 PM
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15. I know exactly what you
"meant" -

why use inflammatory words? Are you trying to effect change? Are you trying to support gun rights, or just tweak the noses of those you THINK are "anti-gun"?

Use "righteous" if you want to, technically, yeah, it's denotation is "justifiable", but the connotation of the word makes it sound like the shooter is having a religious experience over the killing of another human being.

Then again, maybe for some of those gun nuts, it is, eh?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:21 PM
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17. Are you serious?
Edited on Mon Jul-27-09 08:21 PM by Fire_Medic_Dave
Why use inflammatory words? Because it's fun. No I'm not trying to effect change, the status quo in regards to gun laws themselves is fine with me. It seems that many gun grabbers are here just trying to piss people off, if they get their panties in a bunch over a word, then it's their problem.

David
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:45 PM
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21. oh, you're one of those -
just like pissing people off for the shits and giggles of it.



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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:46 PM
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22. Actually not usually. Given the current state of debate in the gungeon it was appropriate.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:47 PM
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24. well, maybe you could do something to
INCREASE the level of discourse instead of acting like an immature fratboy.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:49 PM
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26. I've done all I can in that regard. It has been fruitless, I decided to try the other way.
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eqfan592 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:51 PM
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28. Hey....
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eqfan592 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:48 PM
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25. Wait, we're having a debate???
....I thought we were all just supposed to sit here and fling poo at each other all day! THIS IS NOT WHAT WAS IN MY CONTRACT DAMN IT!!

;)
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 07:57 PM
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30. you hafta check the name of the forum you end up in ;)

In the Guns forum, words have special meanings!

People who haven't been convicted of a crime are "honest citizens" (even though they might cheat like hell on their taxes, I guess).

They can't just be called "people who haven't been convicted of a crime", which is what they actually are in the context of, say, getting a permit to carry a concealed firearm. That would make the implications too obvious: that they might be total drug-trafficking / spouse-abusing scum, but they've never been convicted of a crime, so bingo, good to go with a pistol in their pocket anywhere they want. Or just whatever fine firearm they might want, if the "background check" doesn't come up with any conviction that would make them ineligible.

Yes, the shooting of someone we disapprove of by an honest citizen, down here in the Guns forum, is a righteous thing. And, let us not forget, cleanses the gene pool.

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 01:24 PM
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33. You're a real winner.
I'm always surprised by the level of sheer contempt you seem to have for, well, anybody and everybody. In your world, anyone who hasn't already been convicted of something is just a future criminal waiting to happen, and the human race is a barely controlled set of animals who will happily start raping and murdering if you let them have a weapon.
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eqfan592 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:03 PM
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10. yay assumptions and jumping to conclusions!
idiot.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:12 PM
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14. oh im sorry gun nut
the gun nut who posted the op seemed breathlessly excited about someone getting shot and killed.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:22 PM
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18. My post clearly achieved one of its goals.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:25 PM
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19. if your goal was to seem like a kill crazy freak
it certainly did.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:29 PM
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20. Only the illiterate would think that.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:47 PM
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23. personally, I think
he does get off on "righteous shootings"

but ostensibly, he just likes to pull one wing off of a fly and howl hysterically as it goes around in circles.

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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:50 PM
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27. Is this your attempt at raising the level of the discourse here or your attempt at hypocrisy?
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:02 PM
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9. The guard earned his pay.
And hopefully a raise and promotion.

Oh and FMD, kudos on the word usage! :rofl:

Let me throw one in: (Takes deep breath.)

"Righteous? You're not only an NRA shill-Gun-Nut, you're a right-wing Christian fascist! The evil gun magic seeped into that guards brain and made him shoot that poor man (who was obviously a victim of society) That man should passively laid down and let the criminals have their way-the liberal thing to do. The 2nd Amendment was created by the GOP. Safety is more important then freedom!"
:crazy:
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 10:40 PM
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31. Guards make very little money for the risk they take. (n/t)
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 07:52 PM
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29. here's the important part

A Brinks security guard shot and killed a would-be robber who attacked him while he was making a routine stop at a South Miami-Dade health clinic Friday, according to witnesses.


I was at my new health clinic this afternoon. (I switched last week from the one I'd been going to for 30 years. This one's closer, and I have 10 years of peeves and grievances with the other one that finally overcame inertia.)

I doubt they'd have been able to change me a fiver.

Walked in without an appointment, showed 'em my card, said I'd been in twice last week and had called earlier today to check that my test results were in, waited 20 minutes, saw the nurse practitioner, left, going back in two weeks ... This one's a short walk away, so no parking or cabfares even.

Health care services in Miami bring in a flow of money that has to be carried away in bags by armoured trucks.

Whew. What a concept.

But hey. Keep on doing your damnedest to defeat Democrats and their judicial nominees, folks ...
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:40 AM
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32. Really good point
Health care services in Miami bring in a flow of money that has to be carried away in bags by armoured trucks.

Followed by nonsense..

But hey. Keep on doing your damnedest to defeat Democrats and their judicial nominees, folks ...

If Democrats are defeated it is because they defeated themselves with their positions on issues important to their constituents. We all know Sotomayor will be confirmed, for the sake of argument lets say she isn't based on this issue. Wouldn't that require a fair amount of opposition from Democrats? Then what happens? Does GWB get to come back and make the next nomination? Uh, no, President Obama would be forced into making a nomination suitable to his own party to gain confirmation. That's all.
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