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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 08:52 PM
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Police: Robbery victim shot teenage assailant
Source: By Kate Howard • THE TENNESSEAN

A man who was being robbed near his south Nashville home at gunpoint drew his own gun and shot the teenage perpetrator, Metro police said.

Paul Campbell, 60, was sitting in his car in the driveway of his Lindy Murff Court home with a friend when two people approached. The teenager, armed with a handgun, demanded money while 19-year-old Kevin Negron stood by with a shotgun, the man told police.

Campbell pulled his .38-caliber revolver and shot the teen in the chest.

Read more: http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090831/NEWS03/90831031/1001/NEWS
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:05 PM
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1. Why did you stop quoting the article in mid-paragraph?
Here's the rest:

Campbell pulled his .38-caliber revolver and shot the teen in the chest. He is in stable condition and will be charged with aggravated robbery when he's discharged from the hospital, police said. Negron was charged with two counts of attempted aggravated robbery.

Campbell has a carry permit for his handgun.


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Rocky Sullivan Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:10 PM
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2. Tough to find fault here
It's always a shame when a young person has to learn a lesson the hard way, but jeez. The good guy won in this scenario. The kid's lucky he's still alive. His partner in crime is lucky he didn't catch a bullet too. The victim is lucky he was carrying his (legal) gun.
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:16 PM
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3. Strange worldview you've got there.
Learning a lesson is your mother taking you back to a store from which you shoplifted something.
Taking a bullet in the chest as a lesson learned is quite a leap.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:17 PM
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4. So you don't think he learned a lesson? n/t
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:18 PM
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5. As if shoplifting and armed robbery are the same thing.
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:26 PM
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10. Where did I say that?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:26 PM
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12. Where did I say you said that?
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:29 PM
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13. Useful conversation!
I was questioning the "learning a lesson the hard way" idea.
I've just never heard it applied to teenagers who took a shot in the chest.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:31 PM
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14. I've heard it applied to all kinds of people making stupid decisions.
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:36 PM
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18. And if he'd died?
Do you call that REALLY learning a lesson?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:38 PM
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20. Then it would have just been a learning lesson for his cohorts.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:03 PM
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24. His buddy (the one holding the shotgun) would have learned a lesson.
"Dude armed robber can be dangerous to your health".
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Rocky Sullivan Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:19 PM
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6. That would be a lesson, yes...
but is Mommy making Jr. take something he's stolen back to the store learning a lesson the hard way? No.
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:26 PM
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11. You're absolutely right.
She should shoot him.
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Rocky Sullivan Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:31 PM
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15. Kimmy, the shoplifting scenario
and the robbery scenario are two different things. Of course the mother shouldn't shoot Jr. for shoplifting. The kid in the story threatened this man's life.
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:36 PM
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17. I realize that.
But you suggested that the shoplifting scenario wasn't learning a lesson the hard way.
I must disagree.

(Granted, taking THIS particular kid to a store to apologize for shoplifting probably wouldn't do it as a lesson learned the hard way...)
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Rocky Sullivan Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:38 PM
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19. In the shoplifting scenario,
I would say learning a lesson the hard way would entail Jr. being caught by someone other than his mother and charges being pressed.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:53 PM
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25. The thug's "learning a lesson" is secondary...
When someone -- anyone -- threatens you with a gun (especially when his cohort is also armed), he is liable to get shot. If a lesson can be gleaned from this, fine. If not, it wouldn't make much of a difference: he will (or should) go to prison for a very long time and thereby be out of civilized society. Too bad another teenager decided to thug-out and try to reach celeb status on-the-cheap (all though taxpayers will have to foot the bill for an expensive chest-cracking operation -- something I cannot afford due to lack of health insurance).

Sir or madam, this is a case of self-defense, and in the words of Gandhi, "Anyone who despatches this lunatic will earn the gratitude of the community and be regarded as a benevolent man." I trust you agree with Gandhi that this elderly fellow who defended himself should be "...regarded as a benevolent man."
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:27 PM
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27. He'll live - lesson learned
(we can hope) - don't rob people.
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Treo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:57 AM
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32. I bet he never tries to rob an old man again. Lesson learned NT
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:20 PM
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7. THE TENNESSEAN • August 31, 2009... I guess it wasn't breaking news enough.
Couldn't be bias.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:50 PM
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21. I guess following the rules isn't good enough for some people.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:21 PM
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8. (guns forum? WTF?) - anyway, good for him
That bastard got what was coming to him. Play with fire and see what you get, motherfucker.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:23 PM
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9. This one goes in the Guns As Solution To Guns pile. Next?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:35 PM
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16. They are certainly the solution to some problems.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:54 PM
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22. Roll it back. A problem unto itself.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 09:57 PM
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23. True of many problems.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:14 PM
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26. What a bedwetter answer.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 01:01 AM
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29. Would you rather there be robbery and death?
I think you rather Mr. Campbell had been killed. Am I wrong?
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 11:43 PM
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31. And a large pile it is.
Truth hurts, doesn't it?

If someone threatens me with a gun, should I offer him/her knitting lessons?
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Treo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:58 AM
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33. No
Edited on Thu Sep-03-09 01:08 AM by Treo
It goes in the "guns as a solution to armed thugs pile"

EDIT TO ADD
Like it or not, guns are here and as long as the bad guys have access to them they WILL use them. If you took away all firearms in civilian hands today someone in the army or on a police force, somewhere would sell one tomorrow. Where do you think the Mexican cartels are getting their RPGs? A gunshow in Houston?

You can not eradicate guns from this planet; you’d have to kill every machinist, every gunsmith, and every pipe fitter and destroy every mill and lathe on this planet and kill all the people that know how to make them.

When you come up with a workable way to implement your plan I’ll be the first to listen. Until then….
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:18 AM
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34. How's that pile?
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 12:59 AM
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28. That's the risk of being a criminal.
Maybe he'll make something of his life after he gets out of prison.

Good for Mr. Campbell. He protected himself and his friend.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:38 PM
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30. Just because some people think everyone is nice.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:30 PM
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35. kick.
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