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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:35 PM Original message |
Proposal targets gun ban for parks |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. very revealing language |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. How can you not feel safe surrounded by thin cloth and drunks cleaning weapons at the next camp site |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. So you believe that all gun owners are drunks? n/t |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I'm not a drunk ... and I own a few. (get a clue) |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. You've never been camping/hunting with my BIL. Hey bud, hold my beer and watch this! |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. If you know he is doing dangerous and illegal things... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
37. Why do you go camping with someone who handles firearms carelessly? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
66. Well, my goodness. If I'm not hunting, I don't clean guns in parks... |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
101. this really needs to stop |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 04:09 AM Response to Reply #101 |
104. 4 minutes from alert to removal |
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taurus145 (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
42. I have one or two drinks a month |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
46. Better question... |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
54. It seems you have a very stereotypical view of gun owners. You should do some research |
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Walk away (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. Parks without guns..but they NEED guns all the time and everywhere! |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Ever been to Florida? |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I'd just a soon keep the parks for families. Leave the guns locked in the trunk. |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Currently violent criminals are in the parks with guns. With your family. nt |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Bull shit! If you know they are there, then I'll bet the cops know. Ya'think? (clueless) |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I think you actually don't know what you are talking about. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Not bullshit at all |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. I'm sure they do know. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Shame on you, introducing facts and logic into a feeeeeeling based debate!!! |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. They do know. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. Please educate yourself before you make yourself look even more foolish. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #14 |
61. No, the cops don't specifically know. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
67. Sorry, but crims/thugs like to habituate parks because there are so few police... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
72. Actually, forest rangers have recently had to re-arm after decades of doing their jobs without |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I carry a firearm around my family at all times (when I am visiting them). |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Because it's not about YOU ... it's about the safety of others. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Correct. I carry tools to help enable protection for myself, my family... |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Please stop protecting me |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Relax. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Me relax? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #41 |
56. That is an emotional response. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #56 |
68. My, rd, that was a detached observation. nt |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Thanks. All part of my new civility plan. |
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armueller2001 (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
73. Would you prefer that |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. People with permits are safer than cops, and more law abiding than cops. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #25 |
51. Deleted message |
rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. You are allowing your emotions to guide you. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #51 |
65. Not terrified, just not living in denial. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #23 |
55. Yours is an emotional response. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #23 |
63. How do MY guns endanger others? |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
78. So, what is your problem with people being safe? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Good way to get it stolen, but hey, if you have some brilliant idea on how to keep the meth labs out |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Not to mention the MJ farms. Lots of them have man traps around them. n/t |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:06 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. you |
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NewMoonTherian (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 03:43 AM Response to Reply #40 |
47. I think what he was getting at... |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 05:16 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Naww |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 06:15 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Of course, the experiences of MichaelHarris are representative of the population |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #49 |
120. Ya forgot the best one, TPaine7... |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. It's such a target rich environment, it's hard for one person to cover them all. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #48 |
60. " I'll never agree with you that firearms are needed in National Parks". Who said they are needed? |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. In my opinion, they are needed. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 07:09 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. How |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. I've saved 3 |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Post the news |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #89 |
117. oh, and I'm a journalist |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #80 |
99. ???????????? |
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NewMoonTherian (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
74. You make a good point... |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. And that is an intelligent observation |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. Well... |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. hahahahaha |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #90 |
118. "sometimes ineffective" - moot |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #79 |
96. If a gang approached with weapons drawn, how would being unarmed improve your situation? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #79 |
106. You have some unwarranted assumptions. |
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NewMoonTherian (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #79 |
109. There are some intemperate responses there. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #79 |
110. A sad commentary on the effects of the reality distortion field. |
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farmout rightarm (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #79 |
112. Okay this is a little strange. You went to some trouble to explain to us that since you never had |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
119. "You are hiking down the trail with your family, a gang approaches, guns drawn." |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
82. Not only that, but there is the infamous story of Claude Dallas that comes to mind |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #82 |
107. Killed two possum cops and got 8 years off for good behavior |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #48 |
98. Congratulations. |
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farmout rightarm (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
111. I'm 67 and never had a fire in my house. I guess I've been an idiot for buying insurance. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
97. A pistol might help keep you alive while waiting for EMS/police. |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
77. clue for yue - park personnel sometimes make parks dangerous |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
91. Yeah |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #91 |
116. Thanks for trolling, a 5th grader would at least |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #116 |
121. The public doesn't need arms, because felons are bound by a code of honor. |
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Walk away (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #6 |
50. I am sure I have been unfortunate enough to be around gun toters before. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #50 |
59. Again, you provide nothing but emotional ignorance. How about a rational, fact based argument? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #50 |
69. Speaking of the "boonies," Sam Houston National Forrest allows... |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
76. Your dog avatar is cute n/t |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 06:18 AM Response to Reply #50 |
105. Okay, *you* don't like guns; we get it already! |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
108. Your choice of States to visit is going to be very limited. |
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NewMoonTherian (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
130. Well that was kind of uncalled for. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Were you under the misapprehension that crime of all types does not occur in Parks? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. Normal people |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
39. Can you prove you speak for "normal people" and/or "everyone else"? |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
45. False Dichotomy Fail |
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Walk away (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Why would I want to prove I am normal to someone who has to carry a gun... |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Do you actually have a rational argument against guns in parks or are you just being |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #53 |
70. We talk about lawful carrying in parks, and you bring up a riot!... |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
9. In our park 2 women had their throats slit. The gun ban didn't help them. nt |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. And the ever expected exception makes the rule ... how clever. |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Look, here is the deal. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Insults now, huh? Are you following some kind of handbook or something? nt |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Darn. |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
33. Let's just hope the legislature keeps the Reagan rules in place ... lock'em up. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Are you volunteering to help provide security at Parks? |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Would they have any liability if someone is killed? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
52. Key words - "it is important to families for people to feel safe". FEEL safe! |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
62. Sounds like D.C., all over again. nt |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
64. Yep, I can see this in court, if it were to pass... |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
81. See, that's just it, this is a perfectly good proposal for the people of Maine. |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. regarding Maine, IDAHOAN snarks: "OP lives in Texas" |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. And the clue-by-four award goes to.. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #85 |
113. Yeah, but see that's not the problem. The problem is they want states' rights with one issue, but |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. {insert non-sequitur here} |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-10-10 02:42 AM Response to Reply #114 |
131. The same is true for smoking medical marijuana. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 07:49 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. If I read this right, |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #84 |
92. Did you kill |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Find any white extremists? (that are african american) n/t |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. not sure what |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. You know, your locked thread.. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. actually that |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Who me? My posts aren't scattered with 'Deleted message's.. |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 03:56 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. figured with all of our feuding |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #103 |
115. Excellent looking pistols! |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. they are both |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Isn't the one on the left a Remington? |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. I guess it could be |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. The 51 Colt Navy Sheriff was never built in 44 caliber |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. They do sell the kit |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. The Italians are pretty good gun makers |
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MichaelHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. it's even wierder than that |
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