1a2b3c
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 11:31 AM
Original message |
I think i found a concealed carry loophole. |
|
http://www.firearmslawcenter.org/content/kansas.aspKansas prohibits the carrying of concealed firearms except when the person is on his or her land or in his or her home or fixed place of business. Kans. Stat. § 21-4201(a)(4). This prohibition does not apply, however, to:
Law enforcement officers, or other persons summoned by law enforcement to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace, while actually engaged in assisting such officer;
Wardens, superintendents, directors, security personnel and keepers of prisons, penitentiaries, jails and other institutions for the detention of persons accused or convicted of crime, while acting within the scope of their authority;
Members of the armed services or reserve forces of the United States or the Kansas national guard while in the performance of their official duty;
Watchmen, within the scope of their employment;
Licensed hunters or fishermen, while engaged in hunting or fishing;
Private detectives licensed by the state to carry the firearm involved, while actually engaged in the duties of their employment;
Detectives or special agents regularly employed by railroad companies or other corporations to perform full-time security or investigative service, while actually engaged in the duties of their employment;
The state fire marshal, the state fire marshal's deputies or any member of a fire department authorized to carry a firearm pursuant to Section 31-157, while engaged in an investigation in which such fire marshal, deputy or member is authorized to carry a firearm under Section 31-157; or
Special deputy sheriffs who have satisfactorily completed the basic course of instruction required for permanent appointment as a part-time law enforcement officer under Section 74-5607a.
Section 21-4201(b), (c).
Kansas does not provide permits to carry concealed firearms.By looking at what i bold typed, it seems i can carry a concealed weapon as long as i have a fishing license and am fishing. What do you guys think?
|
MrBenchley
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 11:32 AM
Response to Original message |
1. Afraid you're going to get mugged by a trout, are you? |
1a2b3c
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #1 |
|
But i might run into a rattlesnake. Good eatin' YEEEEEE HHHHAAAAAWWWWWWWW.
|
happyslug
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #6 |
15. In Pa, your need a fishing license to hunt snakes. |
|
One of the idiocy of Pennyslvnaia law, Snakes, Frogs, Salmanders and other "Cold Blooded" Creatures are covered by the Fish and Boat Commission NOT the Seperate (and independent) Game Commission.
Thus you need a FISH Lisense to hunt snakes in Pennsylvania. I do not know about Kansas maybe its law is similar i.e. you need your firearm to hunt frogs and/or snakes with your Fishing license.
|
slackmaster
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #15 |
16. California law has some endearing quirks as well |
|
It's illegal to shoot a game animal from a moving vehicle unless you happen to be lawfully hunting whales.
|
CO Liberal
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 11:34 AM
Response to Original message |
2. Will You Be Carrying a Fishing Pole Into Wal-Mart? |
slackmaster
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #2 |
8. You'd be surprised where people CAN go while hunting |
|
I don't know about Kansas law, but even in California a hunter can go some places where hunting or even loaded firearms are not normally allowed "...while in lawful pursuit of birds or mammals", e.g. most areas in state parks and other public lands, but not into a rural post office.
:D
|
mouse7
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 11:34 AM
Response to Original message |
3. Leads to a lot of catfish full of lead |
|
I like eating catfish. I don't like killing catfish. Catfish don't die.
This is one I may actually understand. I'd have like to have a 45 Auto when getting ready to clean the catfish.
|
1a2b3c
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #3 |
|
It sucks trying to clean a catfish.
|
slackmaster
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 11:38 AM
Response to Original message |
5. It's not a loophole, it's an exception |
|
And rather clearly written as gun laws go.
You have to be actively engaged in hunting or fishing for the exception to apply. IOW stalking an animal or waiting in a blind; a line in the water or sitting near a body of water with your tackle close at hand, etc.
|
1a2b3c
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #5 |
7. So why do you think they made this exception? |
|
Do i really need a concealed weapon while fishing? I would more likely need one while going to the bank to cash a check, or while walking home from the library late at night.
|
slackmaster
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #7 |
9. You might want a handgun to finish off a REALLY BIG catfish |
|
Since short-handled Samoan war clubs are illegal in Kansas.
|
DonP
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
11. Love catching them, hate cleaning them |
|
Catfish put up a great fight, all muscle and a bad attitude. Pound for pound one of the best fighters, along with small mouth bass IMNSHO.
But I hate cleaning them so I usually do a catch and release thing with Mr, Whiskers.
Musky is the same way. All muscle and teeth and a really, really nasty disposition.
Back in the day (dawn of time through the '60's) it was common for a fisherman to carry a baseball bat or more often a small .22 Ivers Johnson revolver in the tackle box and shoot a keeper musky before bringing it into the boat.
My neighbor had one wrapped in an oily cloth that he took out and practiced with once or twice a year before the season opened.
A good size flopping Musky could break a fisherman's ankle or take a good chunk out of a leg before giving up the ghost. The pistols are gone now but the baseball bats, or "fish clubs" are still available in most upper midwest sporting goods stores.
I imagine a good sized Blue or Flathead could do some toothless damage too.
|
Superfly
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #11 |
12. Still use a .357 Mag on halibut... |
|
the last thing you need on your boat is a 250 pound barn door flopping around and inviting you to swim with the orcas. Pull em up next to the boat and put a nice little hole betwixt the eyes.
|
DonP
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #12 |
13. 3 stooges episode in the making? |
|
I'm sure that folks that don't fish for big or dangerous fish see this thread as a 3 stooges episode, where you shoot a hole in the boat then shoot another to let the water out.
I've never had the chance to do any serious salt water fishing, except for cobia down in SC once or twice.
Hauling on something that weighs more than a motorcycle or a VW intimidates me.
|
Superfly
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #13 |
14. That's why you shoot it when it's still in the water... |
|
I'm sure some people found that out the hard way.
|
beyurslf
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Tue Dec-30-03 12:15 PM
Response to Original message |
DU
AdBot (1000+ posts) |
Tue May 07th 2024, 05:12 AM
Response to Original message |