Sharpshooters, help quell a debate...

[Superfly]

My friend and I were having a lengthy discussion this past weekend about accurate shooting at weird uphill/downhill angles.

Here's the situation:

You have a 30-30 firing 170 gr round points. Your zero is at 150 yards, and you shoot using these values:

Range/Drop: 100/+2 150/0 200/-4.8 250/-13

You are using premium optics, and you never miss.

One day you are hunting the plains of Wyoming for antelope (with a 30-30...ha!). To place a shot on a nice mature male at 225 yards, where do you aim (no x-wind)?

The next day, you are in Idaho, hunting bighorn sheep. You spot one below you...way below you (your distance finder says 150 yards), but you judge the horizontal distance to be about 75 yards (60 degrees downward slope). Where do you aim?

The very next day, you are in Colorado, and although a bit tired from all the travelling, you are out hunting elk and you spot one above you...again the range is 150 yards and you judge the upward slope at 45 degrees. Where do you aim?

[bedtimeforbonzo]

1. No matter how accurately you shoot

it won't make your penis any bigger.

[the_acid_one]

8. No matter how many snippy one liners...

...you make on internet forums, it wont make you appear any smarter.

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2. Use a cheat sheet

http://www.snipercountry.com/slope.html

[Superfly]

3. Pretty cool.

Never seen that before.

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5. There's no reason why a civilian needs a "Slope Doper"!

Used in conjunction with a 50 BMG, it could be used to shoot down an airliner. :)

[alwynsw]

10. And just how many rounds do you suppose it would take?

Oh! That's right!

Never mind.

We lunatic asswipes get confused so easily whilst envying penises.

[moroni]

4. I'm guessing...

1. +10 inches
2. - 1 inch
3. - 2 inches

[alwynsw]

6. Geez, fly!

Why figure the angle? Just stand right up, tell the little fellow that you're a PETA member, and when he walks up for an ear scratch, slit his throat with your Gerber. (It's cheaper than ammo.)

[MrSandman]

7. Up or down,

point of impact will always be higher than level ground. Gravity pull is less than a 90 degree pull on bullet both ways. In the CO shot you would be safe holding center of mass. You might be a tad high, but well in vital area. At Idaho, hold where you normally would to hit COM.

IMO, the difference is negligible for a medium game vital area.

[MrSandman]

9. Plug your ballistics in

http://www.norma.cc/htm_files/javapagee.htm

[Baclava]

11. another trick question....

Put down that 30/30 and slowly back away.
Get yourself an 06 and sit up on the porch with the big boyz.

[Superfly]

12. That's what I shoot (the '06)

I just wanted to ask this question using a round that *arcs*. You would have to bracket the target at long range with the 30-30

[Baclava]

13. Try this......

I think this is what you're looking for...

http://www.wildsheep.org/magazines/uphill_shooting.htm

[alwynsw]

14. I also prefer the '06 for most work.

the .30-.30 is good in the brush around here, so I use it occasionally. Out west where the shots seem to go forever, I prefer either the .300 WBY mag or the 7mm mag. If I'm going for moose or larger way up north, it's either the .375 or the .460.

Yup. I burn up a bunch of ammo at the range (my deck out back - an advantage of farm life) during the week before a hunt.