Rabbit hunter shot dead by own gun

[onehandle]

Three friends were riding on a shooting platform in the tray when the man drove over a bump.

The shotgun belonging to one of the passengers accidentally discharged, firing through the roof of the utility and into the back of the driver's head.

The man, who lived in the Horsham area, was fatally wounded and died at the scene.

The party had been rabbiting, an Ambulance Victoria spokesman said.

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/rabbit-hunter-shot-dead-by-own-gun-20101010-16e4e.html

[shadowrider]

1. Un'rec'd for SHAMELESSLY promoting an accidental death to promote your anti-gun agenda n/t

[geckosfeet]

4. Funny how that comes back to bite.

[sharesunited]

8. Not necessarily anti-gun. Just pro rabbit.

[Saturday]

15. Yea, you can only post on the gun forum

when guns are glorified. What were you thinking?:sarcasm:

[hlthe2b]

2. I guess it would be insensitive to say...

"You Wascally Wabbit"... (but a certain cartoon does come to mind)

[Ian David]

3. Did he say "shoot me now," instead of "wait until you get home?"

[Euromutt]

39. "You stay out of this. He doesn't have to shoot you now."

At the risk of coming off as an even worse nerd than I am, I should point that the "Do you want to shoot me now, or wait till you get home?" exchange is from Rabbit Seasoning, whereas the still you posted is from Rabbit Fire (which contains the "It's rabbit theathon!" "Duck season!" exchange).

[Ian David]

44. You're obstructing my view of Venus. n/t

[slackmaster]

5. Unrec for poor writing and lack of relevance to the Guns forum

Guns are inanimate objects. A gun cannot properly be cited as the agent in a transitive verb.

Perhaps basic gun safety should be taught in Australian public schools.

[Better Today]

6. I'm pretty sure you could find dozens, at least, of articles across

the world indicating that automobile ownership killed more persons, and more persons' friends and family, on the same day this one gun accident happened. Do you think cars should be outlawed?

[sharesunited]

9. The purpose of a car is transportation. The purpose of a gun is to inflict death.

Huge difference.

[Better Today]

12. Two points....

First death is death. If I kill someone with a power drill instead of a gun, that's not less heinous.

Secondly, we kill animals in all sorts of ways. Are you suggesting that all killing of any animals should be stopped? Clearly the group in question weren't out to shoot people, it was an accident. Friendly fire in war is the only the comparison I can think of that would actually fit your "huge difference" straw man.

[sharesunited]

14. Compare the ease of inflicting death with a power drill and a gun.

The huge difference is inherent and obvious.

Dead may be dead, but the convenient means of inflicting it renders all our other rights moot.

[Pavulon]

36. Get your sign and hit the streets. case law is decided..

not sure where you guys are going but it looks like the same place as right to life nuts and the kkk after they lost their supreme court cases..

Gun control is dead here.

[sharesunited]

49. Control is mythological. Eradication is the cause.

[Pavulon]

56. Like I said, there are abortion clinics to be protested and negroes at lunch counters

that need to be stood up to.. You lost, move on.

[SteveM]

61. "Eradication." That reminds me, 4:20 is approaching. Thanks. nt

[X_Digger]

37. Which one is you?

[rrneck]

47. The sign. nt

[cleanhippie]

16. Funny how the car kills more.

Especially since that is not its intended purpose.

But you knew that.

[safeinOhio]

25. and new laws

are passed every year to make cars and driving safer. Another great comparison to use. Thanks Hip, we'll use that one.

[cleanhippie]

28. use away!

Not sure how that will help your cause, considering that gun violence continues to drop. But hey, go for it.

[lawodevolution]

29. Still, no one is going after the sports cars and calling them

Assault cars and I don't know of a string movement to ban dangerous motorcycles.

[safeinOhio]

34. Only crazy fringe elements are calling for any bans

on anything. Those few voices are all the crazies on the other side need to scream bloody murder and yell they are coming to take our guns.

But, like safer autos, reasonable laws are supported by everyone else in society.

[Pavulon]

35. Name those please? Which law would have prevented this or

any number of bad handling accidents. Which law would make murder in chicago more illegal?

Here is a hint? Make guns more illegal, or legalize drugs.. Think on that.

[Katya Mullethov]

38. Well

They create jobs ?

[Euromutt]

43. The DNC are "crazy fringe elements"?

Reinstituting a ban--a permanent one this time--on so-called "assault weapons" is still in the party platform.

And geez, is it possible to come with more prejudicial language than asserting that the measures you want are "reasonable" and that anyone who disagrees with them is by definition "a crazy"? Maybe it's just me being hopelessly cynical, but when I read or hear language like that, I tend to interpret it as a strong indication that the speaker is unable to argue for the measures he's advocating on the basis of their merits, and therefore has to resort to pre-emptively smearing his opponents.

[cleanhippie]

54. I am glad that you finally admit that Brady and VPC are "crazy fringe elements"...

Thank you.


I trust that they will no longer be cited as a valid source for info, right?

[slackmaster]

17. Sometimes rabbits need to be killed

[rrneck]

20. Inflict death on who? nt

[shutupnfish]

63. funny how

the device that's purpose is transportation is responsible for more accidental deaths than the device that's purpose is to inflict death.

[lawodevolution]

7. Shame on you for using tragedy to advance you agenda and trying to fake a crisis

Again

[Euromutt]

40. Shelve the graph; this incident took place in Australia

One of the "civilized countries," of which the United States is supposedly not one, according to certain posters on this forum.

[benEzra]

10. So, are you saying that even some of the most draconian gun laws on this planet

are irrelvant to accidental shootings?

That the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Ownership needs to move to Australia?

That this is somehow indicative of Australian karma?

Otherwise, WTF is your point about an Australian hunter being shot with his own gun in the gun-control paradise of Australia?

[Hangingon]

26. I unrec'ed for thw same reason.

[valerief]

11. If all rabbits had guns, then only rabbits would have guns. nt

[TheWraith]

13. If he'd lived in the US, this guy might still be alive.

One of the big benefits of modern firearms is better safety functions, which prevent guns from going off accidentally. Of course, some places prefer to ban modern firearms in the name of safety.

[slackmaster]

18. People in the US have better access to trauma care than people out in the sticks in Australia

I can't find any evidence of a trauma center in or near Horsham, Victoria.

[TheWraith]

19. True, though the window of opportunity on a headwound is pretty short. nt

[russ1943]

22. Lawanna Hancock's husband is pleased to know

there are safety functions which prevent guns from going off accidentally.

EQUALITY — Lawana Hancock, 59, Equality, died Wednesday night due to a single bullet fired from an accidentally dropped gun, according to a release from Gallatin County Coroner Tony Cox.
The autopsy revealed Hancock's death was due to a left hemothorax as a result of the gun firing the bullet into her lower back in an upward manner, traveling through her left lung, upward through her neck and lodging in her left back jaw area, according to the release.
Two other people were at the house, Hancock's husband and a friend. Their statements indicated the gun was dropped and discharged upon striking the ground at 8:10 p.m. http://www.dailyregister.com/news/police_and_fire/x155905899/Accidentally-dropped-gun-killed-Equality-woman

Sometimes it just doesn't matter.


A lone gunshot briefly interrupted lunch Friday afternoon at Galatoire's restaurant in the French Quarter.
Times-Picayune. The gunshot, an accidental discharge, occurred when a handgun concealed in a woman's purse fell to the floor in the restaurant's foyer, according to a news release from the dining institution. When the bag hit the floor, the gun fired, sending a bullet into a nearby wall. No one was injured. Once the smoke cleared, the restaurant continued serving lunch. http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/09/gunfire_in_galatoires.html

Between someone getting killed and no one getting hit there are of course, others.

[PavePusher]

23. The operative words being "modern firearms" AND

that you must actually use those safety features.

A cocked and saftied 1911 is perfectly safe. An older revolver with hammer down over a loaded chamber... may not be.

No different from any other tool.

[russ1943]

57. And.............

Gun goes off during tussle in Lorain bar
Filed by Chronicle-Telegram Staff October 10th, 2010 in Top Stories.
LORAIN — A gun police believe a 21-year-old Lorain man stuck in the face of a bar patron early Saturday morning fired as an officer was trying to restrain the man and the gun fell to the floor. The officer was not hurt when the gun fired, according to a police report.
http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2010/10/10/gun-goes-off-during-tussle-in-lorain-bar/

[PavePusher]

58. O.K., that very first sentence makes no sense whatsoever.

No mention of make/model of gun, so can't make any useful hypothesis.

[Katya Mullethov]

21. Are the hounds hot on its trail ? Lots of places a gun on the run can hide in ...in .....

Gimme a break ! IT'S IN AUSTRALIA ?!?!?!?!?


Have you ever read past a headline ? Just the URL is enough on this one .

[rrneck]

24. Unrec for pointless spamoganda. nt

[DissedByBush]

27. They violated basic firearms safety rules

At least by US standards.

My local game warden says almost all of the firearms "accidents" he sees aren't really accidents.

They are because somebody violated the safety rules, so they aren't really accidents.

[lawodevolution]

32. Negligent discharge

The kind of thing that puts a smile on an anti's face as he/she pretends to feel empathy while using it to further his/her agenda

[Euromutt]

41. And for this to have happened in much of the U.S., laws would have had to have been broken

For example, here in Washington state, it's illegal to transport a loaded long gun in a motor vehicle, and it's illegal to hunt from a motor vehicle (unless you have a disability exemption).

[proteus_lives]

30. Ban accidents. It's the only way we'll be safe.

[X_Digger]

31. ban accidents.. in australia.. with rabbit hunters.. lol. n/t

[Callisto32]

33. This has nothing to do with policy or self-defense and so should be moved.

[Euromutt]

42. Well, I guess it goes to show there's more to effective gun laws than banning certain models

My own state of Washington, for example, prohibits hunting from a motor vehicle, and transporting a loaded long gun in a motor vehicle. Thus, an incident like this one could not have occurred in WA provided hunting laws were being obeyed. Interesting that Victoria evidently didn't stop to consider that such laws might be more useful than outlawing semi-automatic long guns.

Part of the reason it's a bad idea to transport a shotgun with a round chambered is that most shotguns don't have firing pin safeties; a jarring impact can cause the firing pin to strike the primer of the loaded round, and boom. That's why American police--those who still use shotguns--load the gun's magazine but do not chamber a round, a condition known as "cruiser ready." This incident illustrates why.

[Euromutt]

45. The sub-editor who wrote the headline needs to improve his skills

Because the body of the story makes it clear it wasn't the driver's own gun, as claimed in the headline, it was the gun of someone riding in the ute's cargo bed.

[krispos42]

46. Thank god it wasn't a semiautomatic shotgun with a pistol grip and folding stock.

He'd be super-extra dead, and the shotgun assault weapon might have decided to go shoot up a school as well.

[petronius]

48. "The tray"? Is that Australian for the bed of a pickup truck?

I'm assuming "twin cab utility" means a pickup with a crew cab...

:shrug:

[ManiacJoe]

50. That article left me wanting for an Australian to American dictionary.

[Euromutt]

51. A "utility" (or "ute") is more like an El Camino

The "official" term for it is a "coupé pickup"; essentially you're looking at the front end of a regular car with a rear cargo bed. The Subaru Baja (those yellow Outback-like things with a rear cargo bed from a few years back) is another example. Holden (Australian car firm now owned by GM) has been building the "Ute" for decades.

[petronius]

52. Interesting - not at all what I pictured

Didn't expect to see much new on the gun policy front, but a language lesson is always welcome... :)

[benEzra]

53. Here's the Holden...

That's actually a pretty neat vehicle, IMO.

Four-door:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Ute

[petronius]

55. Neat! It would make a good beach-going vehicle around here. Not sure I'd want to

go bouncing through a pasture in one, however, with guns or not...

[Tejas]

59. As usual, journalism fail.

"Rabbit hunter shot dead by own gun"



Content states driver killed by shotgun belonging to one of the passengers.



huh?

[shadowrider]

60. Get used to it. Any thread put up by certain posters will contain a misleading headline

to support the agenda, whether or not it's true.

[SteveM]

62. So, we go to AUSTRALIA for a gun-control argument?...

Please note: whether in the U.S. or in Australia, long guns should never be transported with:
(1) a loaded chamber and magazine;
(2) the barrel pointing up.

Most people in the U.S. have taken this lessen seriously, and the firearm hunting accident rate is dropping as a result.