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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:13 AM Original message |
Got a Gender Gap Problem? Push for Gun Restrictions ... |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. The problem during Katrina was the police with guns.... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Police were not the only problem ... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. If neccesary, yes. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Many of whom were forcibly confiscating citizens' firearms... |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
2. NRA vs Brady Campaign |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Looking at how "shall issue" concealed carry ... |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
45. What spin said, and............ |
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Pullo (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
61. Over 4 million dues-paying members for the NRA as well ....... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. The Brady Campaign was powerful at one time but ... |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. while the Brady campaign spreads pure lies |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. My humble suggestion: |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
64. Here's another liberal take on the "disregarded" NRA: |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. The Brady campaigns garbage polls |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. Civil rights aren't based on popularity contests |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Along with NRA stooges like |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Charlton Heston ( The same Charlton Heston that marched W/ King) |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. His own words at a NRA speech |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I don't see the racism |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. there are people of every race that do that |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Deleted message |
RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Personal attack |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Your statement that I |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. If you are offended by what I said |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Association Fallacy |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Perhaps, |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Where do you see association in the OP? |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Looks like you are using it |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Re-read the wiki on the fallacy. I don't think it means what you think it does. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. I try to present both sides of an issue in order to promote discussion. |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Good that you |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Actually, I would argue that the original Association fallacy .. |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. True , Paul Helmke has no credibility. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I personally dislike the NRA-ILA as they constantly try to scare me ... |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Is the American Rifle Man mag |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. I found the November issue interesting ... |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. As you have no cred for dodging the question in post #36 |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 06:15 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. you have none as |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Reading comprehension fail. I asked no question. |
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Pullo (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I'm curious, why do you regard Charton Heston as a racist? |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. see post #16 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. The NRA supports the right of minorities to own firearms |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Ted Nugent is on the Board of Directors of the NRA |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Moreover, the racist and classist history of gun cotrol is clear and continues to this day |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Sorry, that right wing bull has been debunked. |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. You appeal to one blog post |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Really? *snort* |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. A few questions, still I think the premise holds water |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. The intern's core principle is fallacy.. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 01:57 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. The intern also omitted Robert F. Williams, author of "Negroes With Guns" |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 06:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. as some here are fond of |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #51 |
59. You aint kiddin' |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. Some are fond of using Republicans as sources. Such as the head of the Brady Campaign.... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
60. What started you on this Argument from fallacy kick? ... |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 02:07 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. I have...its the truth...your citation is an aberration at best |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 06:18 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. your argument falls under |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 09:04 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I'm glad that you're actually taking the time to learn logical fallacies.. |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Looking at the least |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Making an argument without logical fallacies is hard, yes. |
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lapsstir (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-27-10 06:40 AM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Actually, no |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-27-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I was simplifying :) |
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lapsstir (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-27-10 06:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
68. Considering that many minorities and specifically blacks |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-26-10 07:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
54. He noticed there are those use race as a bludgeon |
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lapsstir (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-27-10 06:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
67. Charlton Heston was not a racist |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
30. Growth of new women hunters quickly rising ... |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. This follows other trends in gender |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. True. 50 years ago there were few female police officers... |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-25-10 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
43. My wife bought an AR this year |
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