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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 02:44 AM
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Thousands attend Tucson gun show one week after shootings
Tucson, Arizona (CNN) -- Thousands of people determined "to exercise their Second Amendment rights," attended a gun show Saturday in Tucson, Arizona, one week after a well-armed gunman opened fire at a local shopping center, the show's president said.

The mood at the show was somber, said Bob Templeton of Crossroads of the West Gun Shows.

But the two-day event is expected to draw up to nearly 7,000 patrons, rather than the customary 5,000, Templeton said. Attendees waited up to 20 minutes to buy tickets Saturday morning, he said.

"We had a moment of silence here at the show," Templeton said, referring to the deaths of six people and the wounding of 13 others, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, after last Saturday's shooting.

Full story: http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/15/arizona.gun.show/index.html
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HankyDubs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 02:59 AM
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1. Oh great!
"We had a moment of silence here at the show,"

Problem solved!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 03:06 AM
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2. why not after that ringing public endorsement of one specific gun - PR the maker can't buy nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 03:07 AM
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:24 AM
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4. Just heard this on the news
Interestingly glocks and extended mags are selling like hot cakes at the show.

Y'all go on ahead and keep calling for a ban. You'll put more guns on the streets than Charleton Heston
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:46 AM
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5. "A moment of silence"?
And then they got busy guaranteeing many more.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 07:54 AM
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7. And if they didn't have a moment of silence
You'd be screaming they couldn't even respect the fallen.

Can't win for losing.
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:57 AM
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10. Like the somber memorial rally they just had there
Is anybody knocking off those tee shirts yet ? Together we thrive sounds like a dog food slogan .
I wanna send one with a buddy to SHOT for Zumbo to autograph .
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 01:31 PM
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11. What, exactly, is your point?
Because I'm sure it's very interesting.
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east texas lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 02:16 PM
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13. Blew right by ya, did it?
:o
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 03:16 PM
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14. It has a rather long taper to it
Edited on Sun Jan-16-11 03:17 PM by Katya Mullethov
As it wasnt very somber .
Dare I say... it had a bit of a whoreish carnival atmosphere not unlike the scene painted at the much maligned gun show they had over there this weekend .
To each his own I say . Allah loves wondrous variety .
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 06:15 PM
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32. Allah loves wondrous variety .
Edited on Sun Jan-16-11 06:16 PM by RSillsbee
But only if you're a black muslim from Jerusalem who speaks in an English accent and hangs out w/ a white guy from Nottingham Shire who doesn't
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 07:02 AM
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6. There was also an article stating they are taking contributions for the
wounded and killed-I guess that was not in the article you saw...
FWIW, 7,000 people at a gun show is extremely light attendance.

mark
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 09:06 AM
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8. Thousands attend Tucson gun show one week after shootings
And not one shot was fired by any of over 7,000 people
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 09:22 AM
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9. I weep for American journalism.
The author of the article injects his/her political point of view by offering that thousands of people are DETERMINED to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights by attending the show. Unless the author can read minds, there is no way to know what motivated these people to attend.
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 02:07 PM
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12. Try to identify the tactic being used here by anti-gun groups...
"Some critics have questioned whether the gun show was appropriate so soon after the shootings."

Go to this thread to view a list of tactics used by gun control groups and their supporters:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x361725

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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:37 AM
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36. How very appropriate. Thanks for the link.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:01 PM
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15. The pro-gun crowd has no sympathy for gun deaths.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:24 PM
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17. You coun't be more wrong and I RESENT that implication n/t
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:30 PM
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19. So why not cancel the gun show?
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:36 PM
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20. because there is nothing inherently wrong with gun shows, gun shows are not bad or evil
Edited on Sun Jan-16-11 04:37 PM by lawodevolution
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:37 PM
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21. See, "sympathy" would generate a need just based on that it looks bad.
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:38 PM
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22. Should a car race also be shut down after a shooting or just gun shows?
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:43 PM
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24. LOL......classic. I'll add that to my list of gun lovers quotes!
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:45 PM
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25. It seems you are loosely associating a gun show with an act of evil.
Edited on Sun Jan-16-11 04:47 PM by lawodevolution
There is no need to cancel a gun show because gun shows are not responsible nor are they in any way associated with this tragic event in Arizona.

There are plenty of bigoted quotes by you that I can save, I'd rather not do it.

Try answering my question. Should any other event be canceled after this tragic event? If there were to be a race, should that also be canceled or just the gun show?
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 06:12 PM
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30. And should bars be shut down after drunk driving deaths?
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TPaine7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 06:34 PM
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33. It doesn't look bad to rational people.
Unfortunately for your sides wishes, rationality is winning on this subject:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x361274
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:42 AM
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37. You are confusing sympathy with guilt. They are too different things. So when
is you CHL class?
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 06:50 PM
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34. Do you cancel a car race the same week that a pile-up on the 420 kills a dozen?
See how asinine that sounds?
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 02:28 PM
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39. You realize the shooter's weapon came from Sports Authority, right?
What the hell does the gun show have to do with it?
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:27 PM
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18. this is the tactic you just used:
Edited on Sun Jan-16-11 04:34 PM by lawodevolution
Distraction: “no one is trying to ban your guns” is often used in the same post in which they then talk about their sensible gun laws to ban “assault rifles”. Obviously they want to ban guns but they feel that they might be able to lighten you up and dumb you up a little so you can allow them pass their sensible gun laws, then when they progress to the next step they will do the same thing again.

Empathy: “I’m a gun owner and I support this common sense gun law.” KKK and Neo-NAZIs own guns and would support a ban on guns in the inner city so that minorities couldn’t own guns. The Brady’s themselves own guns, yet are willing to ban others from owning guns. This is another deceptive method to get you to support their Agenda. They want you to feel they are on your side, so you can either back off or aid them.

Shame: If there is a shooting they will try to exploit that tragedy against whatever NRA meeting or gun show or event that will occur in the near future. They will say such things as, "is it appropriate to have the even so soon after the shooting" which would require that the pro-gun event is somehow wrong or bad in the first place.

Hate/Fear/Anger: They try to use disparaging names against gun owners just like any bigot would do against a culture or a person’s view that is different from their own. Perhaps the gun owner will be affraid to support the second amendment after being exposed to this anger.

Lies, deception, manipulation, sensationalism: I have never seen a gun control debate in which the folks supporting gun control did not use a significant amount of false information, lies, and deception. They will talk about “assault weapons ban” while showing full auto guns that will not be effected by any AWB. Every part of the ignorance of firearms that they perpetuate is part of the tactic. They can’t seem to figure out the difference between a “magazine” and a “clip”.

Exploitation of tragedy: They have prepared legislation in advance with the purpose of waiting for a tragedy, so that they can introduce that legislation rapidly after a tragedy. They are like vultures waiting for the kill.

Throwing up smoke: Yet when you try to argue against their plan, they try to shame you into thinking you are wrong for posting your views in light of the tragedy and they accuse you of attempting political gain and being insensitive to the victims even though they initiated the attempt at political gain via the tragedy. They distract you from their own disgusting exploitation of the tragedy by claiming you are exploiting it.

Harass gun owners: The laws they pass are not designed to make society more safe, they are designed to only effect law abiding gun owners by threatening or harassing them via legislation. Their goal is to reduce the number of people who own guns and therefore the number of people who fight for the right to own firearms. They try to make gun laws complicated and they try to use intimidation via legislation to try to get people to sell their firearms. They also try to attack gun ownership from every angle including making it more difficult for people to go target shooting, acquire ammo or go hunting.

loose association: Trying to associate guns, gun events, gun rights activists or pro gun groups with something they are not associated with in any way that people in general may consider to be evil or bad such as Evil Banks, Evil people, bad events or anything negative even though many people don't view guns in a negative way or gun owners as being evil. An attempt to label guns, gun owners or pro gun groups as evil by loose association with that which is considered evil.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 06:14 PM
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31. And it was used two hours after you originally posted it. Very prescient of you
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:53 PM
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26. You disgust me
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 06:10 PM
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29. That's the type of bullshit that causes the angry discourse we have in our nation today ...
You are smart enough to know that your statement is totally false but you post it merely to piss off the pro-RKBA posters. Perhaps you hope that they will reply in a foolish manner.

Your tactic is transparent and only makes you look small.

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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 02:23 PM
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38. Crass comment, even by your standards
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Pancho Sanza Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:12 PM
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16. I have to wonder how Rep. Giffords, a RKBA supporter and gun owner feels about it.
Has anybody thought about waiting to ask her?
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 04:41 PM
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23. purhaps she should rest and get well before gun control supporters try to exploit her
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Pancho Sanza Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 05:02 PM
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27. Yes, absolutely...that's why I suggested waiting.
:hi:
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 05:05 PM
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28. They're already trying to exploit her and it disgusts me n/t
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east texas lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-11 10:03 PM
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35. The exploitation started immediately after the words 'mass shooting' went out...
Edited on Sun Jan-16-11 10:06 PM by east texas lib
The visibility of some of the victims only raised the potential gains to be had in the minds of the exploiters. Posturing for political gain, like the of love of gold, surpasses all wonderment.
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