virginia mountainman
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Wed Feb-02-11 12:41 PM
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Got word this AM that they are trying to sneak a magazine ban into a normally benign Federal Aviation Administration bill using an amendment in the U.S. Senate..... It has not hit the floor yet, and most folks don't know anything about it.
I contacted both my senators, Senator Warner's and Senator Webb's office and they confirmed that they have gotten phone calls on this issue this morning from concerned constituents. They say nothing is on the docket for today and they can't yet confirm the validity of the rumor, but they are working on doing so.
Time for us to get the word out, and kill it where it stands!!! If we don't quash this, and it becomes hotly debated, our election prospects in 2012 get much worse, even if the bill fails, it WILL have a devastating impact on us..
We run the very real risk of becoming a regional party over stupid crap like this.
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Wed Feb-02-11 12:45 PM
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1. Who sponsored this? Any idea? And, politicians would NEVER be underhanded, would they? |
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Wed Feb-02-11 12:48 PM
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It would be Lautenberg.. He has a long history with the gun control movement..
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Wed Feb-02-11 12:47 PM
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2. Thanks for the info I'd expect anti gun folk to try to force laws without backing |
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Of the people. It's their nature to be anti democratic and anti liberty
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Wed Feb-02-11 12:52 PM
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4. Thanks for the warning! Even if it turns out to be a false alarm, we have to keep an eye |
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on the bastriches. :thumbsup:
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Wed Feb-02-11 12:53 PM
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5. even if IT IS, a false alarm.. |
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....They will know where we stand.......
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Wed Feb-02-11 01:31 PM
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7. Those fhaarking iceholes... |
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Wed Feb-02-11 12:57 PM
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6. The first thing that went through my mind though, for some reason was |
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Playboy? Hustler? Redbook? Southern Living?
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Sherman A1
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Wed Feb-02-11 01:37 PM
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Photography Magazines? I really like those and would find it unfortunate....
As far a guns, well they can ban them all and I would be okay with that....
I will await the expected level of disdain and "interesting" remarks from those who will certainly disagree.
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Wed Feb-02-11 01:44 PM
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9. You want to ban an important part of my culture and heritage, you are the one with disdain |
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Wed Feb-02-11 05:19 PM
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We simply have a different understanding of the 2nd Amendment. I like the whole thing which includes the "WELL REGULATED" part.
as for your culture and heritage, I bear you no disdain at all.
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Wed Feb-02-11 05:21 PM
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15. Well regulated, back in the 1700's, meant well trained and well functioning |
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Don't apply modern language to terms used hundreds of years ago.
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Sherman A1
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Wed Feb-02-11 05:31 PM
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17. Does this mean that assault weapons will magically |
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go away then with your interpretation? Everyone still carrying muzzle loading black powder rifles these days?
I understand the society and technology have changed.
If we are not to include "well regulated" why should be include the rest of the amendment as it was written about the same time I suspect.
We are not going to agree on this, the Court to date has made it's interpretation very clear. I simply disagree with it.
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Thu Feb-03-11 03:21 PM
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23. Why are you using electricity to post on the internet? |
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Shouldn't your first amendment rights be limited to technology that was available at the time the BOR was written?
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Wed Feb-02-11 02:26 PM
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11. Darn it, I never can seem to recall which of the Bill of Rights is for photography magazines |
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can you refresh my memory?
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Wed Feb-02-11 02:44 PM
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12. It is sad you can't see that a government which tramples one Constitutional protection can trample |
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any of them.
You don't have to be a gunowner or even like guns to be concerned with the idea that guns would be banned in violation of the 2A. Why would the government stop there?
Either Constitutional protections mean something or they don't.
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Sherman A1
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Wed Feb-02-11 05:21 PM
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16. They do indeed mean something. |
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I just read the whole 2nd amendment, not just the gun aficionado cherry picked part of it.
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Wed Feb-02-11 05:32 PM
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Do you understand, that the bill of rights grants no power to government, and in fact restricts exercise of power by government?
The fact that those two things are both true, rules out any restrictions on people based on the "militia clause".
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Sherman A1
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Wed Feb-02-11 05:51 PM
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19. You are absolutely right |
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and perfect in every way.
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Wed Feb-02-11 06:09 PM
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My other half would certainly disagree about me being "perfect in every way", but I'll make a point of telling her someone said I was.
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Thu Feb-03-11 03:41 PM
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24. the militia act of 1903 |
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shows that the organized militia in the National guard, and the unorganized militia is all males between 17 and 45 years old. That is the militia in modern day. All American males between those ages.
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Thu Feb-03-11 01:29 PM
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include taking them away from the police, military and any other government agency?
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Thu Feb-03-11 03:44 PM
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25. If they ban them from |
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your average civilian then police shouldnt be exempt from the ban. I would be fine with the military being exempt. FBI and other govt agent should not be exempt either.
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Wed Feb-02-11 01:48 PM
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10. I would support a ban on the last one. nt |
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