‘Made in NH’ gun lawserves no real purpose

[jpak]

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/opinioneditorials/909704-263/made-in-nh-gun-lawserves-no-real.html

Here’s some good news for all those private gunsmiths who make guns from scratch in the Granite State, then sell them only to New Hampshire residents for use only within state borders.

A bill that cleared the state House of Representatives last week would make sure such weapons are free from federal regulations, background disclosures or taxes.

Any federal law enforcement agent attempting to impose the laws of the United States on these “New Hampshire only” weapons could be arrested and charged with a felony, if the “Made in New Hampshire” gun law clears the Senate and is signed into law.

As we reported Feb. 16, the 240-120 House vote was another clear signal that Second Amendment supporters are finding much to like in the Republican-dominated Legislature elected with the backing of the National Rifle Association faithful.

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Republic douchebaggery never ceases to amaze

yup

[RSillsbee]

1. Several states have passed similar laws

Yup

[friendly_iconoclast]

2. If the subject of this law was cannabis and not guns, would you still disapprove of it?

Or do your principles only go so far, and no farther?

[jpak]

4. Federal law supersedes state law

yup

[friendly_iconoclast]

5. You're a drug warrior, as well? Why am I not a bit surprised? n/t

[jpak]

7. Makie shit up much?

:rofl:

[PavePusher]

22. I suggest you try a new tactic.

It's commonly refered to as "Answer the question". Sometimes with an obscene adjective thrown in for good measure.

[jpak]

24. That was my response to made up shit

yup

[PavePusher]

25. If you answer questions directly, or simply but politely refuse to do so...

it will have an amazing affect on your credibility and the ability of others to make assumptions about your positions.

Fact.

yup.

[jpak]

27. Yeah, the threats/attacks posted against me really had an amazing effect on my credibility

fact

yup

[PavePusher]

31. "threats/attacks"? oreeeeeely?

I'm sure you can cite them, amIrite?

Although I will give you the benefit of the doubt, as I don't often get to see the deleted comments before they disappear. So I aknowledge that I may have missed some.

[Bold Lib]

6. Not exactly.

It does in cases where there is dual authority between states and the Feds. But if the constitution doesn't specifically give the authority to the Feds then the states supersede.

[GreenStormCloud]

9. Not Always.

The Commerce Clause of the Constitution restricts the reach of Federal Law into State business as does the 10th Amendment.

[jpak]

10. Isn't that what republics have against Obamacare?

:evilgrin:

[GreenStormCloud]

18. Irrelevant. The law is the law. N/T

[Spoonman]

19. FAIL, and weak as hell!

Come on, you can do better than that...... on second thought, no you can't!:rofl:

[PavePusher]

23. This word "republic"....

You keep using it. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[jpak]

28. Limpaugh Hannity FOX et al. call the Democratic Party the Democrat (sic) Party

I call republicans "republics" to remind them of their stupid douchebaggery

yup

[Spoonman]

14. Not with regards to INTRASTATE commerce....

I can see your not very up to date on constitutional law!

[speltwon]

29. Not when there is no interstate commerce nexus

That is how (see: Raich for example) the feds got jurisdiction over medical mj in california, by twisting the commerce clause.

[damntexdem]

8. Only if cannabis killed like guns do.

Will America at some point get over its gun addiction -- or will that addiction just be one more nail in America's coffin?

[Ken_Fish]

13. Alcohol First. Working on a College Campus

provides some perspective.. Alcohol is involved in FAR more fatal accidents around town and cases of rape / sex assault / dozen other crimes on campus than firearms. FAR MORE.

Its a city mouse country mouse thing, just like prohibition was.

The majority of educated people I meet pretty much agree that the real issues at play around violence in the US correlates to mental health, drug law / culture, and poverty.

"Gun Control" supply side restrictions to consumers not so much.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

15. The body count along the southern border is piling up...

If you don't think the activities related to americans smoking pot have killed people then you need a reality check. How many people do weed-supplying drug cartels have to kill before you're cognizant that pot kills alot more people than you'd like to acknowledge.

[one-eyed fat man]

20. 30,000 dead Mexicans

just so you can smoke your brains out.



You may not have pulled the trigger, but you paid for the bullets. If you insisted on dead Mexican free dope maybe you'd have a leg to stand on. It worked for dolphins and tuna.

[Spoonman]

21. WELL SAID!

For those of you who *try* to disagree, be careful you don't make a hypocrite out of yourself.

[Katya Mullethov]

26. But dope didnt kill them

Money did . The economic engine that is prohibition is to blame . Prohibitionists are to blame .

If they get their way and all the guns suddenly were to evaporate , the gun prohibitionists would still find something else to blame it on ,something else to regulate , something else to ban , to control , to tax , to ....to .. avoid getting a real fucking job .

They get dental probably , so I cant really blame them . Not like you'd wanna go to Mexico and get your teeth fixed cheap anymore .

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11. But, wait!!!

There's even more good news coming out of Granite State ("Live Free or Die")...

:toast:

HB334 (correcting holes in the preemption statute (159.26))
HB125 will begin to correct the BATF over-reach
HB330 Constitutional Carry
HB378 Criminal threatening
HB235 Firearms in cars in private parking lots
HB544 Adding knives to the pre-emption statute 159:26
HB344 Correcting oversights and loop holes in the pre-emption statute. 159:26


H-0009 Relative to State Authority over Firearms and Ammunition
H-0012 Relative to Carrying Firearms
H-0030 HB29 Permitting a person to petition the superior court for any action pertaining to a pistol or revolver license.
H-0031 Relative to the State's Authority to Prohibit or regulate firearms, firearms components, ammunition or firearms supplies.
H-0039 Relative to Physical Force in Defense of a Person
H-0078 HB125 Relative to lawful commerce in firearms, including manufacture and sale, in New Hampshire.
H-0339 Relative to Physical Force in Defense of a Person
H-0341 Relative to Physical Force in Defense of a Person
H-0440 inserting an exception to the criminal threatening statute
H-0446 relative to the right to brandish a firearm in defense of one's property.
S-0453 relative to the brandishing of a firearm
H-0495 relative to the return of personal property by law enforcement agencies
H-0498 relative to the advisory board on private investigative agencies and security services, and firearms proficiency for armed security guards, private investigators, and bail enforcement agents.
H-0540 making various changes to the fish and game laws
H-0567 requiring law enforcement agencies to take proper care of firearms seized pursuant to a domestic violence order for relief
H-0601 repealing the prohibition on having or carrying certain crossbow, rifles, or shotguns in vehicles
H-0602 relative to the use of deadly force to protect oneself
H-0640 relative to special permits for transportation of deer
H-0641 prohibiting night vision enhancement equipment in night hunting
H-0642 instituting an apprentice hunting license
H-0643 relative to the certificates of completion of a basic hunter education program or bow hunter education
H-0655 relative to the right to possess a firearm in one's personal motor vehicle
H-0709 relative to the right to carry a firearm, openly or concealed, without a license
H-0848 relative to goods and services sold, made and retained in the state
H-0896 relative to a waiting period before conducting post-shooting investigative interviews of police involved in a shooting
S-0921 repealing the prohibition on the unauthorized use of firearms and firecrackers in the compact part of a town


http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

12. This has to do with jurisdiction... Congress uses the "interstate commerce law" to regulate guns...

Looks like congress does not have constitutionally granted power to regulate a gun manufactured, sold, and used within a single state.

Yup.

[safeinOhio]

17. Only until one or two

said guns cross into another sovereign state. Then all bets are off.

[AtheistCrusader]

30. SCOTUS allowed regulation of a single privately owned pot plant in California.

They apply Interstate Commerce to whatever the hell they republicans want to.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

16. Only if it goes interstate which allows the Commerce Clause to be invoked

It is also not the only state doing this.

Yup yup