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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 01:57 PM
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Car accidents occur; therefore, brakes are useless
The accident I saw this morning was not avoided by car brakes which shows us how useless that car brakes are.

This logic is just as bad as trying to explain that guns are worthless because someone once successfully shot or shot at a president or that a gun owner didn't stop a mass shooting. It's childish logic and does not address the level at which brakes help us avoid accidents or the number of times guns help us scare off an attacker or defend against an attacker or how many mass shootings are stopped by a citizen with a gun, all of which are impossible to quantify.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 01:59 PM
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1. So you really are against all practical safety devices, then?
n/t
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 02:01 PM
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4. Try reading the whole OP
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 02:12 PM
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8. I read the "whole' OP. It's senseless.
Fail.
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russ1943 Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 04:51 PM
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13. Too kind
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-11 11:47 AM
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17. it's just inconvenient for you when someone points out the fail in anti-gun logic.
Edited on Sat Apr-02-11 11:48 AM by lawodevolution
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-11 11:58 AM
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18. Thats quite the compelling argument you just laid out there.
No, not really.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 02:00 PM
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2. Where was this accident? Was anyone hurt?
Did they actually apply their brakes?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 02:01 PM
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3. A single car ride without brakes would be impossible
A whole life without guns, on the other hand...
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 02:07 PM
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6. So if no law abiding citizens or police officers had guns, you think your life
Would continue on in a normal way? You'd probably become a victim of a violent crime eventually.

And I could drive without brakes, you can use your gears to slow down, drive slow, stay far back from the car in from to you and to decelerate the last 5 moh, use reverse and the clutch.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 02:18 PM
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9. If no law-abiding citizens had guns my life would probably be unchanged
If no cops had guns, it's difficult to say what the impact might be, but that's a red herring because virtually no one is arguing to disarm cops.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 02:31 PM
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10. If no law-abiding citizens had guns my life would be different ...
my daughter might have been raped or killed by the man who was forcing the sliding glass door of our home in Tamps. The was a 60 pound black Lab in the home and a burglar alarm was sounding. She pointed a large caliber revolver at the man and he ran. No shots were fired.

Now I have two grandsons to enjoy that might have never been born.
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-11 06:01 AM
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16. But mine would.
I guess I'd have to go back to B.C. technology to deal with the venomous snakes on the farm.

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 02:10 PM
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7. I resemble that remark!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 02:33 PM
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11. Guns are inextricably mixed with centuries of engineering and technology
The concept of life without guns is completely moot. Even if you choose not to own or use them yourself, your safety and liberty depend very much on people who do own and use them.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 05:35 PM
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14. Use airbags instead, if the brakes analogy doesn't work for you (nt)
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 11:28 PM
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15. Are you going to un-invent them? Than it is impossible to go your whole life without guns
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 02:03 PM
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5. My nuclear reactor melted down this morning. It was not saved by its cooling system which
shows how useless cooling systems are and how safe a reactor can be.
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DWC Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 04:01 PM
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12. Excellent analogy! n/t
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