Gun accidently goes off during Tri-State Gun and Knife Show

[RamboLiberal]

EVANSVILLE — A Boonville man, who had allegedly been drinking, accidentally fired a .45 caliber handgun at the Tri-State Gun and Knife Show at the National Guard Amory Saturday afternoon.

Joshua M. Wilkinson, 30, faces a preliminary felony charge of criminal recklessness after he allegedly pulled the trigger of his firearm trying to close the hammer after buying a new holster for it, according to an Evansville Police Department affidavit.

The bullet hit the floor and broke in several pieces. Two people, a 72-year-old man and a 16-year-old boy suffered minor injuries when they were struck by fragments of the bullet.

(on entering the show he unloaded his gun and had a flextie put on the gun per the show's rules - then doofus)

“He took a clip out of his pocket, cut off the band and loaded the gun himself,” Allman said. “... He’s not allowed to load the gun in my building so he violated all of our instructions right then.”


http://www.courierpress.com/news/2011/apr/09/gun-accidently-goes-during-tri-state-gun-and-knife/

He should be charged and if he has a LTCF that should be revoked! This doofus shouldn't be carrying a firearm.

[rhett o rick]

1. Let me tell you that a lot of doofus are carrying firearms. The NRA spends millions making sure that

doofusi get to carry firearms. My father-in-law shot his furnace with an "unloaded" gun. The NRA says that it is in the Constitution that any doofus can carry a gun. Of course their motivation........greed.

[DonP]

2. Agreed - this guy and your father in law are assholes

But even with the NRA teaching more gun safety classes than any group in the world there will always be some that are so dumb (or drunk) they can't find their ass ina a small bathroom with both hands and the light on.

[AndyTiedye]

8. Shot His Furnace?

:rofl:

[jberryhill]

9. They can be dangerous when cornered

[AndyTiedye]

12. Yeah, and Shooting It Only Makes It ANGRY

Especially if it's a GAS furnace. :hide:

[RaleighNCDUer]

21. If 'doofus' is the Latinate singlular, the plural would be 'doofi' not 'doofusi'. nt

[Euromutt]

33. Depends which declination it is

If doofus is an o-declination word (like annus), the plural would indeed be doofi. But if it's a u-declination word (like manus), the plural would also be doofus.

But then, if it were a Latin word, it would probably be spelled dufus; "oo" is not a diphthong much encountered in Latin.

[WatsonT]

49. Any doofus can vote

Any doofus can exercise his/her right to speak.

Any doofus is entitled to a trial by jury.

Until said doofus has committed a crime making them ineligible to exercise such rights even "doofi" are protected by the constitution.

[Historic NY]

3. Again, thats why I stopped going years ago.

[jpak]

14. At the last gun show I attended, several of the doofi reeked of booze

I got the fuck outta there

yup

[gristy]

4. The article and headline state that it was an "accident" as if this was an established fact

Was it an accident that he cut the band off his gun?
Was it an accident that he had been drinking?
Was it an accident that he loaded the gun in the building?

Do "reporters" who write these kinds of things have any training at all?

And while I'm on a roll, what's this comma doing here?
Allman said the gun and knife show, will continue today as scheduled.

[RaleighNCDUer]

5. Accident = non-intentional.

Idiots are the cause of 99% of accidents.

[bluerum]

6. Ah. An unintentionally loaded gun. Those are the worst.

[LibertyFox]

11. We all know guns kill by themselves

Is it any wonder that they start loading themselves too?

:shrug:

[RaleighNCDUer]

17. Again, accident = unintentional.

Accident does not = 'act of god'.

Negligence, and stupidity, lead to accidents.

IMO, the mantra that "there are no accidental discharges" comes from trainers who are attempting to impress on the trainees their personal responsibility - but do so without saying "if you pull the tripper without checking to see if the chamber is clear YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT". Their jobs depend on not calling their clients 'fucking idiots'.

Guys. It's not working. Too many of them ARE fucking idiots who never grew out of being 8 year olds who love the BANG of firecrackers.

[bluerum]

18. No. There is vast difference between 'accident' and unintentional.

I suppose that most accidents are unintentional. Loading a gun is obviously not unintentional.

[RaleighNCDUer]

20. Loading a gun is not unintentional. Nearly blowing your own foot off IS.

You know those signs at workplaces - 73 Accident Free Days - kind of things? They don't keep the count running with a caveat: 'Of course, Joe Smith lost his hand in a grinder, but he's an idiot and he didn't do it intentionally, so we aren't counting it as an accident'.

EVERY time there is a non-intentional discharge of a firearm, it is an accident.

Guns are tools designed to put holes in things. If the hole isn't put there intentionally, then it is put there accidentally. It's really just that simple.

[bluerum]

55. Three rules - should be part of any and every gun owners psyche:

Don't point it at anything that you do not intend to shoot

Don't touch the trigger unless you are ready to shoot

Don't load it until you are ready to shoot

This imbecile broke at least two - possibly all three rules. If he had followed the rules there would have been no "accident".

[one-eyed fat man]

45. Depends who's teaching

"...impress on the trainees their personal responsibility ... 'if you pull the tripper without checking to see if the chamber is clear YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT'".

I retired as a First Sergeant from the US Army. Part of that time was as a Drill Sergeant at Fort Campbell (there's a clue to how LONG ago that was!} I can absolutely assure you any trainee mishandling a weapon where I could see him the the most courteous and printable thing he would have been called is "fucking idiot."

The problem with fucking idiots is exactly that. They keep fucking and making more. What's worse is morons who make their living defending the so-called right of idiots to be stupid without suffering the consequences of their idiocy. Stupid oughtta hurt! I am perfectly fine with morons comepeting for top honors in the Darwin Awards as long as they only inflict pain, injury or destruction upon themselves.

In this case, from the reports, the idiot loaded a gun in violation of the rules and managed to fire it. The idiot needs to spend some time in a cell reflecting on his malfeasance and his personal fortune depleted to provide recompense to those he injured.

Should his financial situation be such he is unable to pay, I would favor a system of indentured servitude. Let him work it off.

The problem with your philosophy, however, is you lump the drunks, dopers, insane and incompetent all into the pile with everyone else. You don't appear to hold sober people responsible for the misdeeds of drunken drivers by wanting to take away their car keys.

[Logical]

7. He should be charged and lose his CCW license if he has one! n-t

[jberryhill]

10. Well, at least none of the knives accidentally went off /nt

[Ohio Dem]

13. Well thank Koresh for that!

Or whoever. That's funny!

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. I can't believe it. Stunning. Absolutely impossible. Nooo way.

Something like this happened - at a gun show - again??????



:wow:

[PavePusher]

16. It's not actually all that frequent.

You did know that, amIright?

[TheCowsCameHome]

19. How often is acceptable?

Your definition, please.

[PavePusher]

22. None, actually.

But I am well aware that I would have as much success wishing for 20 feet of powder snow every winter here in Tucson.

Here's an acronym that is useful: ALARA

[LibertyFox]

23. Never should be the target.

Just like at a safety conscious workplace you strive to reach a goal of 0 accidents. That doesn't mean you will reach it all of the time because if you want to completely eliminate the chance of random stupidity you'd have to lock everyone up in nice padded rooms.

But then we'd all starve. :|

[Hoyt]

24. I've seen several similar stories posted here in last few months. Sounds frequent to me.

It's not like there are millions of gun shows going on in that period.

The fact is, a lot of supposed law abiding citizens are dangerous around guns. And too many folks want to make it easy for them to carry around in public.

[oneshooter]

25. "lot of supposed law abiding citizens are dangerous around guns" and you are one of them? n/t

[Hoyt]

34. Yea, but I don't frequent gun shows or other gun celebrations. Nor do I pack in public.

[oneshooter]

39. So now you admit that you are dangerous around guns? n/t

[Hoyt]

40. Actually, Oneshooter, you probably are too. You just can't admit it.

Fortunately, I'm not around them that much. They don't do a lot for me anymore.

[oneshooter]

43. Is all you have is insults?

You don't know me, have never met me, don't even know what I do.

And you say that I am dangerous around guns!

Project much?

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[Hoyt]

44. I might ask you the same questions.

[oneshooter]

53. Since you have admitted that you are "dangerous to others"

AND you have firearms at home. When will you turn these firearms over to the local LE. You really do not need them in your home.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[Callisto32]

59. Wow...

you sound like a total asshole.

[oneshooter]

62. I just conceder the source, and hold my nose. n/t

[PavePusher]

26. "several" now equals "frequent"?

And you claim some journalistic credibility?

I'd estimate hundreds of gunshows, perhaps thousands, annually, and millions of person-visits. "several" (http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=several&aq=f&aqi=g5&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=e9ce1e11ecd3b0b1) is barely a statistical blip, let alone a trend of any kind, and no evidence of reason to ban anything.

[rl6214]

31. "And you claim some journalistic credibility?"

:rofl:

[Hoyt]

35. We've had reports of gun discharges, criminals obtaining guns, etc., at gun shows.

"Several" is a lot at something where triggers are supposed to be tied, guns are supposed to be unloaded, and the people selling and attending are supposed to know how to handle them. Plus, we haven't even discussed those who acquire guns at these shows who would otherwise be banned from purchasing.

Gun shows just help promote the latest killing apparatus that appeal to gun owners' baser instincts. Few gun shows would make it if they only featured simple self-defense weapons. Without all the tactical weapons, TBag yellow flags and other gun paraphernalia, etc., few folks would attend.

Besides, why provide a place for what are often TBag types to congregate and spew their hatred toward society?

[beevul]

37. Out of how many gun shows...

Out of how many gun shows, and people within them interacting with how many guns, do incidents like this happen?

Or is that question and its answer contrary to your "baser instincts"? Your personal bias in the arena of guns is one of the most thoroughly disgusting I have ever seen. In fact, its almost as bad as your attempts at "journalism".

"Gun shows just help promote the latest killing apparatus that appeal to gun owners' baser instincts. Few gun shows would make it if they only featured simple self-defense weapons. Without all the tactical weapons, TBag yellow flags and other gun paraphernalia, etc., few folks would attend."

Your entire position, is based on "baser instincts", so who are you to be taking that tack?

The latest "killing apparatus"?


Clearly you have been to few, if any gun shows.

[Hoyt]

41. You guys are too accepting of bad outcomes at gun shows.

Went to a number of gun shows before I realized we'd be better off without the things. Maybe some day, you'll come to that realization.

[Callisto32]

60. Bullshit.

Last gun show I went to was looking for a good deal on a single-action revolver...


WooHoo, top of the 19th century, that one....

[cleanhippie]

28. Well, considering your narrow, myopic viewpoint, that seems quite reasonable.

[eqfan592]

29. By your logic....

...the amount of such "accidents" would actually be FAR more numerous than they are. You're making a very weak attempt to hold on to your baseless assumptions about the firearm community as a whole.

[rl6214]

30. what exactly is a "supposed law abiding citizen"?

Do you have some evidence that they are NOT law abiding citizens?

[Hoyt]

36. Someone who meets letter of law today, but still represents a threat to society.

Loughner would be an extreme example. He was "legal" right up until he started blasting away with his tricked out gun.

[beevul]

38. That would be you.

That would be you. Yeah you.

You're a law abiding "journalist".


And you'll be "legal" right up until the moment you start slandering people with your keyboard.


"tricked out gun"

:rofl:


Can credibility go past zero into the negatives?

If it can, that statement would be the one to do it.

[Hoyt]

42. Who is a "journalist?" Not me.

If I were, I'd not be wasting my time on folks who can't walk out of the house without a gun.

As to credibility -- I doubt anyone will have credibility among you guys unless they pack in public, promote more guns in public, drool over tactical weapons, etc.

[cleanhippie]

47. Always insults with you, Hoyt, whenever your idiotic canard is destroyed.

Stay classy.

[RSillsbee]

48. RE: Who is a "journalist?" Not me.

At least we agree on something

[cleanhippie]

46. Interesting, Hoyt, because YOU fall into that category.

:rofl:

[right2bfree]

54. Exactly! Once they go nuts, the LAGO defense goes right out the window. nt

[Straw Man]

57. Tell me...

...in your world, do gun owners inevitably "go nuts"? It must be hell on the unicorns.

[Callisto32]

61. Thou art troll.

[Callisto32]

58. "I read a number of stories about X, so X must be frequent, or at least in increasing frequency..."

It just doesn't work that way.

[WatsonT]

50. Well, with all those guns

and all those gun nuts you'd expect gun shows to be shooting galleries that make our population opinion of the old west seem like a Buddhist monastery by comparison. That is if we're to go by the logic and assumptions of anti-gun folks here.


And yet these are incredibly rare occurrences. Far less common than say, mass shootings in schools and federal buildings and other gun free zones.

[RamboLiberal]

27. Doofus got to spend weekend in jail

Wilkinson will spend the weekend in the Vanderburgh County Jail on charges of criminal recklessness.

The Evansville Police Department says Wilkinson had been drinking, but say if that hadn't been the case, he might not have been charged because the incident was an accident.

http://www.14wfie.com/story/14416088/two-injured-at-gun-show-at-national-guard-armory

Even if he hadn't been drinking that was no accident & IMHO he still should've been jailed.

[petronius]

32. I was wondering a bit - there's no legal strength behind the rules at a gun show, right?

So if some one cuts off the tie and/or loads a gun (provided they'd have the legal right to do so outside the place), the only recourse the organizer really has is to ask them to leave, right? Or does it vary depending on the venue (publicly-owned vs. private space)?

[jberryhill]

52. The person becomes a trespasser

Trespassing comprises more than just "being on property you aren't supposed to be on", but also includes engaging in activities beyond the scope of your authorization to be on the property.

[petronius]

56. Thanks, that makes sense (nt)

[WatsonT]

51. No such thing as an accidently loaded gun

the handler is always responsible for checking that himself and even still assuming it's loaded.

And of course anyone who has been drinking shouldn't be near a gun.

This guy needs to go to jail and possibly not be allowed near a gun ever again.