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Pullo Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 08:02 PM
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Gun Owners Must Take Center Stage
Gun Owners Must Take Center Stage

This evening HBO will air a controversial new documentary film, four years in the making, entitled Gun Fight. Crafted by the acclaimed Academy Award-winning director Barbara Kopple, the film certainly illustrates one all too obvious truth about the gun debate in America: polar opposites continue to exist on both sides. Sadly, the film veers from a dispassionate, comprehensive view (tough to do in 88 minutes), into scoring many subtle advocacy points.

The film will be used to continue to fan the counter-productive divide between gun owners and many non-gun owners. Too many of the latter have been conditioned to reflexively call for "gun control" as a "common-sense" alternative, without having been presented with a full range of options or a detailed knowledge of the status quo. The terms "crime control" and "gun control" have little to do with one another and their juxtaposition as opposites creates a false dichotomy as the starting point for crafting intelligent answers to serious criminal justice issues before we even begin. .....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-feldman/gun-owners-must-take-cent_b_848723.html">Link


Feldman is an interesting guy and I have a lot of respect for his work in advocating our 2A rights.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 08:06 PM
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1. Already posted here.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 08:07 PM
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3. must be the phrasing ... I got +1 on that link. interesting.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 08:06 PM
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2. Net recommendation: 0 votes (Your vote: +1) ---
not surprised at that. This one issue divides this country as bad as (if not worse) than abortion.
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 08:11 PM
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4. although it will probably lean anti-gun it will probably also sell a lot of guns
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:56 PM
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10. Yep, show will get gunners excited by showing weapons made to kill a bunch of folks.

Keeping up with the Jones.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 08:56 PM
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5. if gun owners would stop shooting people they might get more credibility lol nt
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:44 PM
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6. With statements like that, you're shooting YOUR credibility to shit
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 09:46 PM by OneTenthofOnePercent
Using the highest numbers estimate (including murders, suicides & self defense), lets say there about 31,000 gun deaths every year. And since the bulk gunshot wound mortality is about 25%... that gives us about 124,000 shooting victims each year. And, just to humor you, lets say each one of those 124,000 shooting incidents is a unique shooter and unique victim.

So that gives us 124,000 "gun owners" having shot somebody last year.
Well, genius, there 80,000,000 gun owners in the US.

Mathematically, more than 99.85% of all gun owners in the US shot nobody last year. Even including gun owning criminals, being shot by a gun owner (let alone being killed) is VERY VERY rare. Your attack on the credibility of an entire group of individuals, based on the actions of 0.15% of them, is extremely ignorant and prejudiced.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:49 PM
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7. Open Bigotry.
Stay classy...
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:21 PM
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9. wow. just wow.
so funny, I forgot to laugh.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:51 PM
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8. My prediction...
Hatchet job attacking gun owners as megalomaniac, careless paranoids.

But I hope I'm wrong...
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:57 PM
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11. Truth to Power.
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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:51 PM
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12. Puh-leeze...
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 10:52 PM by Straw Man
Truth to Power.

Object and referent are both false.
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