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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:11 AM
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A gun permit - and a medical marijuana card
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/16/MN561IPH36.DTL

Cynthia Willis calls up and down the firing range to be sure everyone knows she is shooting, squares up in a two-handed stance with her Walther P-22 automatic pistol and fires off a clip in rapid succession.

Willis is not only packing a concealed handgun permit in her wallet, she also has a medical marijuana card. That combination has led the local sheriff to try to take her gun permit away.

She is part of what is considered the first major court case in the country to consider whether guns and marijuana can legally mix. The sheriffs of Washington and Jackson counties say no. But Willis and three co-plaintiffs have won in state court twice, with the state's rights to regulate concealed weapons trumping federal gun control law in each decision.

With briefs filed and arguments made, they are now waiting for the Oregon Supreme Court to rule.

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Stoners with a Stoner - what could go wrong?

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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:16 AM
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1. Would the sheriff give a rat's ass
about an end-stage alcoholic with a gun permit? Do I really need to spell out which one gives me more reason for concern?
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:19 AM
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2. Well...
As long as she isn't stoned when she is shooting I see no problem. Hell look at the idiots that drink and are out shooting, or hunting! In my opinion drugs and booze do not mix well with guns, period, but what you do when you are not shooting should have nothing to do with whether you carry a concealed weapon, or not! People go to bars all the time "packing", and I am willing to bet there are more cases of those idiots shooting someone than someone who is high on pot!
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:30 AM
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3. Been posted before, probably by you
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:33 AM
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4. You have something against medical marijuana users too?
You seem to have a distressing pattern of wanting to control what folks do in their private lives...the classic signs of an authoritarian.
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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:33 AM
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5. I feel Much safer knowing a cannabis consumer
might be carrying a weapon over the average "on the street" crazy who insists on carrying to a Presidential rally!
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:36 AM
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6.  But if they see you eating ice cream
they might cone jack you.

Seriously, as long as she's not under the influence while carrying what's the problem?
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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:41 AM
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7. Seriously, There is no problem
as long as they never eat ice cream while carrying. In Oregon it would be enough to create a "probable cause".:)
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:49 AM
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8. Peanut Butter Cap'n Crunch would TOTALLY be RAS NT
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 01:42 PM
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9. Are you serious? People can legally drink and own a gun. How is it any different? n-t
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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 04:21 PM
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10. The difference for me is
That Alcohol makes people very violent.

Cannabis works very differently and a person under the "influence" of Cannabis Knows they are slightly impaired and most likely would never Touch a gun while using it.
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David West Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 04:33 PM
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11. This is a local issue for me.
I live in the same county and only a few miles away from this lady. I have a lot of friends with med cards that are VERY pissed off at Sheriff Mike Winters for doing this as they'd like to get their concealed carry permits and aren't sure they'll be able to. I've personally never even smoked, but I'd definitely trust all of my friends who have med cards with a concealed carry license. One of them actually regularly open carries with me.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 04:36 PM
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12. Alcohol makes me funny as hell for about a half hour
then I fall asleep. I'm also a marvelous dancer for about thirty seconds before then.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 04:48 PM
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14. Video...
or it never happened.

:toast: :rofl:
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 04:38 PM
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13. Didn't you once claim to be in a medical field?
Perhaps you can list the medications (or classes of them), that you feel should abrogate a person from exercising a Civil Right, and perhaps which Civil Rights.
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