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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 12:20 PM Original message |
New Indiana law bans businesses from asking workers whether they have guns in their vehicles |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good The antis lose again! n/t |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Nope - business owners lost. The GOP/NRA took away their property rights |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. I agree, it is kind of a dumb law |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. It is difficult to say, "None of your business" to your boss. N/T |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. In some businesses that's reason enough to get you fired |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 06:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
86. Yes, same here |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Ahhhh, there's the shtick |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
80. It's not their property. The employee's car is their own property. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. It supports the worker (little guy) against a corporation (big guy). |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. +1000. nt |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Nope - the GOP/NRA stomped the rights of small business owners to control their own property |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Interesting |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. what horseshit |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Truth hurts doesn't it? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Nope - nonsensical horse shit is funny |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. That explains |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
42. you got put in your place |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. speaking of horseshit |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. Small business owners? What horseshit! |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
56. How many small businesses have their own employee parking lots? |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. How about bumper stickers on a private car? |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
65. What does the 1st amendment have to do with a private employer? |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
82. So if your boss doesn't like your Obama/Biden sticker he can fire you? |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. In most states, yes s/he could fire you based on political stickers. nt |
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David West (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
79. Yes, he should. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. How do you feel about being forced to allow me to carry a gun in to your house? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. You can't be "forced" to do that. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Can I store a gun in a car parked on your property? Should you have a say in that? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. What if I don't want you to have a pen in your car.... |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. As the property owner should I get to decide what is unstably dangerous and what isn't? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. I think my right to self-protection trumps your angst... |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Do I have a right to tell you that you can't park on my property? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Sure, but again with the manufactured angst, eh? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. So you agree, I have a right to tell you that you can't park on my property |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 05:59 AM Response to Reply #53 |
92. Why don't we look at that scenario from the other end? |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Do your property rights |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. So your argument is anyone can freely park on my property anytime they want and I cant say no? |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Actually |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. You question involves the assumption that you can part anywhere you want when ever you want |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. LOL |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. I guess comprehension isn't your strong point. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Nor is framing yours. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Why do you have such a hard time answering my question? It's a simply yes or no |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Am I required to park in your driveway? nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Deleted message |
rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Ah. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Are you assuming that the person parking in your 2 car driveway |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. You said "should be available for anyone to use" |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
73. Do you own MY vehicle? |
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David West (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Do you own HIS land you are parked on? |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. He's opened his property voluntarily |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Employer is NOT being forced to allow guns in the business. You FAIL. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. If I was a business owner, I would line my employees up in the parking lot and make them open their |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Talk about athoritarian |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Exercising property rights is authoritarian - are no trespassing signs fascist now too? |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. You didn't answer my question |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
54. I'm "athoritarian" because I don't want you parking your car in my drive way? |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Are you talking about your home driveway or |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Let's say my home/business |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #61 |
75. ROTFLMAO! |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Thank you for sharing your contempt for small business owners. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. That would increase your payroll costs. |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
59. Don't forget to demand to see their "papers" and ... |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
72. Wow. Just wow. |
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S_B_Jackson (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 11:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
74. And as soon as you completed that sentence, I would be on the phone to |
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Marengo (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #33 |
77. And after all of that, I would successfully sue you into penury. N/T |
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David West (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
81. If I ran a business... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 06:14 AM Response to Reply #33 |
94. Why don't you pay them in corporate scrip while you're at it? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. But you are arguing that as the property owner... |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. As long as the car is locked, that is correct. Your car is an extension of your home. N/T |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. So eventhough the car is parked on your property if you don't own the car... |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #44 |
89. Wouldn't there already be laws against storing and transporting truly hazardous materials? |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
69. We're not talking about houses; we're talking about places of business |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
62. +1000 on that - none of the bosses damn business |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. Wow! |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Heh. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
9. Indiana is one of 13 states that allow workers to bring their guns to their employers parking lot .. |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
13. The people win again.........good news for America. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
17. What's in my car is private property... |
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Pullo (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
18. Winning! |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
20. wow. a thread from jpak that I am proud to K&R, aside from the |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. K&R GOP authoritarianism? |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. thing is, I know, you really do like guns |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Same here |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
22. Good, it's not their concern. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
25. So, because "It passed both the House and Senate by wide margins" |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
49. Jpak what else can employers ask you if you have in your vehicle?? n-t |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
71. Good to see someone stand up to corporate interests. |
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David West (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
78. jpak and I AGREE? |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 07:53 AM Response to Reply #78 |
87. The ACLU would disagree with you |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #78 |
88. Do your property rights |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
90. Give em pre-employment test -- show photo of tricked out gun, if they get excited, don't hire em. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Define excited. (n/t) |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 06:07 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. That's you out of a job, then |
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