NRA chief says Obama re-election threatens guns rights

[jpak]

http://arkansasnews.com/2011/04/19/nra-chief-says-obama-re-election-threatens-guns-rights/

The chief executive officer of the National Rifle Association said in a talk here today he worries about the future of gun rights if President Obama is re-elected and makes more nominations to the U.S. Supreme Court.

“I believe that the Second Amendment hangs by one vote, and this 2012 election could break the back of it one way or the other,” said Wayne LaPierre, the association’s (edit: moran) CEO and executive vice president, in a packed room at the University of Arkansas Clinton School of Public Service.

LaPierre, who has held his current post since 1991, said Obama already has named two people to the Supreme Court, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, who LaPierre believes “will spend the next 30 years trying to gut the Second Amendment.”

The high court ruled 5-4 in 2008 that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to own a firearm for private use. Last year, the court ruled 5-4 that the Second Amendment’s guarantee of the individual right to bear arms applies to state and local gun laws.

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[yourout]

1. Well they certainly are consistant.

[bluestateguy]

2. When you go against the president in a time of war you give aid and comfort to the enemy

nt

[PavePusher]

29. Soooooo.... was that applicable during the Bush years?

Or maybe I'm misunderstanding you (I sure hope so).

[TheWraith]

3. Fact is, Obama has been better for gun owners than any president since Kennedy.

He signed equalization of concealed carry on federal land.

He quietly killed the "Assault Weapons Ban" nonsense coming from Holder and Clinton.

He concurred with the SCOTUS decision protecting the individual right.

He refused to cave in to interest groups exploiting the attempted assassination in Arizona for their own ends.

[GreenStormCloud]

12. Obama voted against the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act of 2005.

That same year he voted for the Kennedy amendment to the same bill that would have outlawed common rifle center-fire hunting ammunition. Kennedy specifically referred to the .30-30 as a "cop killer". That cartridge has been around unchanged since 1893.

Bush promoted and signed that bill. It saved the firearms industry from being financially ruined by frivolous lawsuits by anti-gun mayors. Although the gun industry was winning the suits they were drowning in legal costs. The suits were a coordinated attempt by anti-gunners to kill the American firearms industry. To get the mayors off their backs Colt capitulated and withdrew from the non-government market. By banning such suits the gun industry was able to survive.

[sharesunited]

17. Obama was right to oppose that POS statute which protects profits of a public menace.

[TheWraith]

25. Do you support suing Budweiser for the crimes of drunk drivers?

How about suing Dell because someone used a PC to trade child porn?

Anyway, I stand by my original statement. As president, he's been better for us than anyone since Kennedy.

[Atypical Liberal]

31. Public menace

Is it a public menace when a good person uses a firearm to defend themselves against someone committing a violent crime against them?

[geckosfeet]

4. Every once in a while I consider joining the NRA

Then they go and open their mouths and I remember why I refuse to fund their agendas.

[LAGC]

24. Yep, same here.

I really wish the ACLU defended the Second Amendment as fiercely as they defend our other civil rights.

But I can't help but think I'd only be undermining what the left-hand is doing by giving the NRA money with my right.

I support most of what they fight for, but their conservative speakers at events are a real turn-off.

[Logical]

34. +1000

[Turbineguy]

5. To them everybody except

Drill Instructor Lee Emory is a danger.

[rl6214]

22. Hey I've met the Gunny

nice guy.

[Turbineguy]

27. My son met him

and said the same thing. He does a great job in that commercial where he plays the shrink.

[Cirque du So-What]

6. The 'regulars' are so quiet on this thread

All I hear from the direction of the NRA hoo-rah squad is...

[ThatPoetGuy]

10. Their silence is golden. nt

[Arctic Dave]

7. The NRA can suck a pusy elephant ass.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

8. HA HA HA HA HA There they go again, spreading the same

old bullshit, "he's taking our guns, he's taking our guns".

Nobodies taking our guns, just coming for the rest of our freedoms

[msongs]

9. they are all out joining the militia since gun rights are only valid in connection with militias nt

[GreenStormCloud]

13. That horse is dead. You can give up beating it. N/T

[one-eyed fat man]

18. No firearms used here

Police have released more information into the death of expectant mom, Jamie Stice. The murderer, Kathy Michelle Coy, used a stun gun on Stice before killing her and cutting her baby boy out of her.

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979243568

[lawodevolution]

28. Wrong, I have the individual right to keep&bear arms which does not depend on being an active member

Of a militia. If Obama wants to win in 2012 he needs to make some pro gun statements. The NRA is going off his earlier record and do you think Obama has turned pro gun (if yes then he should make it publicly known)

[spin]

38. The Supreme Court disagrees with you ...

Syllabus

NOTE: Where it is feasible, a syllabus (headnote) will be released, as is being done in connection with this case, at the time the opinion is issued.The syllabus constitutes no part of the opinion of the Court but has been prepared by the Reporter of Decisions for the convenience of the reader.See United States v. Detroit Timber & Lumber Co., 200 U. S. 321 .

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA et al. v. HELLER
certiorari to the united states court of appeals for the district of columbia circuit
No. 07–290. Argued March 18, 2008—Decided June 26, 2008

District of Columbia law bans handgun possession by making it a crime to carry an unregistered firearm and prohibiting the registration of handguns; provides separately that no person may carry an unlicensed handgun, but authorizes the police chief to issue 1-year licenses; and requires residents to keep lawfully owned firearms unloaded and dissembled or bound by a trigger lock or similar device. Respondent Heller, a D. C. special policeman, applied to register a handgun he wished to keep at home, but the District refused. He filed this suit seeking, on Second Amendment grounds, to enjoin the city from enforcing the bar on handgun registration, the licensing requirement insofar as it prohibits carrying an unlicensed firearm in the home, and the trigger-lock requirement insofar as it prohibits the use of functional firearms in the home. The District Court dismissed the suit, but the D. C. Circuit reversed, holding that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to possess firearms and that the city’s total ban on handguns, as well as its requirement that firearms in the home be kept nonfunctional even when necessary for self-defense, violated that right.

Held:

1. The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Pp. 2–53.emphasis added
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html

[AzNick]

40. Only well organized

Mine is not, we don't even have a flag.

[rrneck]

11. Sounds like Wayne's got rent to pay. nt

[sharp_stick]

14. The lying cocksuckers

must need another ammo sale and the morons will dutifully fall in line, load up the fucking basement and blow themselves to shit the next time they fall asleep in bed with a cigarette.

Wayne LaPierre is a skeevy shitstain that hasn't made a truthful statement since he stole his post in 1991.

[jpak]

19. !

:rofl:

[enough]

15. They must think some people are stupid. (nt)

[TheCowsCameHome]

16. Awww, Wayne is so cute and cuddly,

and his lemmings are so fond of him, too.

[applegrove]

20. **** the nra!

[rl6214]

21. You mean to say you let the CEO of the NRA speak

at the University of Arkansas Clinton School of Public Service.

[rl6214]

23. And you really expect him to say anything different?

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[Logical]

30. The NRA is a right wing organization who needs to keep the gun owners scared to make money! n-t

[Atypical Liberal]

32. How could anyone disagree with this?

Obama has an anti-firearm track record. He campaigned on an anti-gun platform. I don't think anyone believes that his lack of anti-firearm initiatives has been due to any change of heart, but rather the fact that he knows it is politically impossible to do so.

He has indeed appointed two anti-gun judges to the Supreme Court. If he is able to appoint more anti-gun judges to the Supreme Court, it could have serious negative consequences for the right to keep and bear arms.

Given how close the last two Supreme Court cases were, this is a serious issue.

Sotomayor has ruled that the Second Amendment does not apply to the States.
In 2007 she said, "...the right to possess a gun is clearly not a fundamental right."

Elana Kagan was the Cliton attorney who drafted his executive order banning certain imported firearms. When ban was announced, Clinton staffer Jose Cerda stated, “We are taking the law and bending it as far as we can to capture a whole new class of guns.as a law clerk Kagan lobbied Supreme Court justice Thurgood Marshall to side against the right to keep and bear arms in the District of Columbia.

Now, these incidents are not entirely damning. It is possible that Sotomayor was simply ruling in light of then current Supreme Court interpretations of the second amendment and not exposing her personal views. It's also possible that Kagan was simply doing what her boss told her to do.

But I doubt all of this. It is far more likely that Obama picked these judges because their views reflect his own.

If true, and I believe it is, then the NRA's warning is accurate.

[Logical]

33. If I had to choose between Obama being slightly anti-gun but progressive...

and McCain being pro-Gun but a right wing idiot. I'll take my chances with Obama.

[Atypical Liberal]

35. As did I.

If I had to choose between Obama being slightly anti-gun but progressive...and McCain being pro-Gun but a right wing idiot. I'll take my chances with Obama.

And that is exactly the choice I made as well.

But I had the luxury of being fairly certain that President Obama would not be able to touch gun control anyway.

[Logical]

36. I think it is beyond anyone touching at this point. So the dems should...

stop losing votes over it. It is a waste of resources.

[TPaine7]

37. Truth is not a concern of the anti-gun posters here.

In fact, as a general rule, truth is not a concern of gun control.

It doesn't matter if Wayne is telling the truth. Truth doesn't matter; it's all about how they feel.

It's a mirror image of right wing "truthiness."

[ileus]

39. the second hangs on by one vote at the moment...