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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 12:20 AM Original message |
Could You Draw on a 12-Year-Old Committing a Robbery? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. Committing a robbery? No. Talking during a movie? Yes. nt |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. Ha! |
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Sonoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
2. One finger, one trigger. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
3. Could I? Do I need to? |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
67. Exactly, so a you wouldn't even need a gun, right? |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 02:51 AM Response to Original message |
4. Wow what a rough scenario |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
5. I hope they charge this girl's parents with something. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
68. How about charging the neighbor who left a gun lying around? |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
6. How do you read the situation? |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
7. I'd just take the gun away and beat her ass NT |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Good luck with that. |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 05:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
85. Did you read the story? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 07:58 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. They were very lucky. |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Apparently you are not keeping current on the latest Brady wisdom |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Action does beat reaction - absolutely |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. How mant 12 YOs do you know |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Thread drift. |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 05:11 AM Response to Reply #90 |
95. I knew about the Bradley incident |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
8. How can you shoot women and children? |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
9. Armed? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
11. She has just promoted herself to adulthood. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. +1 - I'd be very unlikely to get involved in stopping a store armed robbery |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
12. Some pro-gunners would. A few weeks ago they supported shooting unarmed woman robber. |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Do you live alone? |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Do you have guns around that 12 year olds can see, get to (probably handle), and in this case steal? |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. There are guns under lock and key |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
70. You get the prize for the stretch of the day |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Bullshit. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I see you have a typical toter's sense of humor |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. I have a very low tolerance for thieves. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 07:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Provide verifiable evidence, including link. n/t |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Link provided in message. Now, your turn. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Yes, the bank robber that claimed to have a gun. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Does that mean to draw and put one in their brain as soon as she says that? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
50. She is threatening the lives of people. She has to be taken seriously. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Good thing you, or those who think similarly, weren't there. You guys think "gun" too quickly. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. You are the person that claimed armed home invaders weren't *really* dangerous |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I did not say that. In any event, this thread does not involve a home invader. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. If you can switch from talking about the 12 year old to talking about... |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I think you've taken something out of context. Got a post #? You guys often don't get things right. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
80. Unlike you, I provide links: |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I didn't say to give me links that prove you are wrong. But you did anyway. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
82. Here is the link. You are clearly against shooting the home invaders.. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
71. So why don't you just claim to have one instead of having one? |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #71 |
84. No. because that could get you killed, very dead. n/t |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
39. Do you honestly believe that there are posters here who want to shoot/kill another |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:33 AM Response to Reply #39 |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. So just to be clear: you truly honestly think that there are people right here at DU who will be |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
74. BLAH BLAH BLAH. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
13. There are 12 year olds that look like they are 15 nowadays |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Is that a rationale to shoot them, perhaps in the back? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. If the 12 yr old is holding a gun threatening to kill someone if they don't get their way - Yes. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Thank you Jesus, judge, jury, and executioner. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. More proof that you want unarmed victims. Good grief. n/t |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. If one walks around in public with gun, suspecting/fearing 12 year olds -- good reason for controls. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. As usual you distort the situation. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Society expects public gun carriers to have reasonable/rational judgement. Ain't seeing it here. |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Oh, you see it. You just don't agree with it being reasonable. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Society gets that resonableness too from us. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Yes, I've seen those stats ad nauseam. Your sample is biased because of requirements to get a CCW. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #65 |
83. That would be pure speculation. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. You obviously see what you want to see. And what you want to see has no relation to reality |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. "Massively deluded about state of society"- I'm not the one irrationally compelled to tote in public |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. The fact that you insist on phrases like "irrationally compelled" is evidence of your delusion, |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
91. You have consistently failed to prove that it is "irrational". n/t |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. For you maybe, not for me. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:23 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You guys have all kinds of justification to put a notch in your gun. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Actually, there's only one justification, and nobody wants to "put a notch" in anything |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #26 |
44. Since when has that bothered you? |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
72. Hmm! Looks 15 and weighs 150. Sounds shootable to me |
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chibajoe (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
15. Could I? Yes. Would I? Probably not. I'm reasonably sure I can disarm a 12 year old girl |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. The obvious followup question: What if you are not within arms reach? |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Offer em a candy cane and free tickets to Miley Cyrus of something. Maybe see why she's doing this. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Good reason to let folks carry stun guns, rather than guns designed and carried to kill. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Pat Robertson claims divine authority for *his* judgements. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I know, not enough blood and gut splatter for you with a stun gun. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. you want |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I don't need to state it explicitly. Known too many carriers. Besides what other reason is there |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. I have never seen a bank with an armed guard in it. |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. A recurring refrain |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I'd love to be able to serenely pass through life issuing moral diktats to the rabble. |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
79. If you remember the Dodgers in Brooklyn |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
59. You seem to be suggesting that |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
92. Didn't you know? |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Oh, sure, Take all the fun out of it... |
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chibajoe (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
41. Then I will try to get within arms reach without getting shot, or just observe |
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bluedigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
17. It's situational, obviously. |
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LibertyFox (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
23. I doubt it |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-20-11 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
30. Yes, she's holding a gun. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I don't think it is the same thing |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:26 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Well, at least you recognize that. Some of public gun carriers are just as brainwashed or worse. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
94. Not what I meant |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
56. The reason the person is pointing a gun at you is secondary |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #56 |
96. Shot by a child, shot by an adult, same thing. Lots of pain. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
73. Does the tender age of a would-be shooter matter? |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-21-11 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
77. Hell yeah I could draw on a twelve year old. |
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