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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:21 PM
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Cop fires 33 times, at a single dog....in a neighborhood...
Hitting houses, and several cars.... Finally killing the dog..

Now tell me again, about all the training the "only ones" get?? And how civilians cannot be trusted again???

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=8077437

Someone needs to take HIS high capacity magazine away..
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:24 PM
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1. Good work, Hightower. n/t
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:28 PM
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3. LOL +1,000,004
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:33 PM
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4. Gah! ROFL! nt
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:24 PM
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2. But cops are the ONLY ones that should have firearms
:sarcasm:
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:41 PM
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15. Does prove that training doesn't matter.
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:13 PM
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20. That goes without saying
Practice = old and busted .
Paid leave = new and fun .
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:04 PM
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28. WTF?
I'm guessing this person wasn't at all well trained.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:46 AM
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37. I would guess more trained then the average owner.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:46 AM
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38. Apparently not.
Unless you can cite to an "average owner" who sprays an entire neighborhood with an equivalent amount of ammo....
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:54 AM
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41. Careful there.
There might be one in Moscow Idaho.

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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 01:50 PM
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42. That proves cops are not gun people and don't do enough training
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:06 PM
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44. Wrong, they should be the first not to be armed
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:08 PM
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45.  You sure want to see a lot of cops killed don't you. n/t
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 05:25 PM
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48. You're so insightful and incredibly funny.
You definitely get the prize for absurdity. It's very nice to know you're there, always ready to give us all a giggle.
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Sonoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:36 PM
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5. One thing for sure, that cop will never live this down.
I can just imagine the taunts at the PD.

Damn shame about that dog, tho. The same thing almost happened to one of mine when she broke thru a fence on the property. A neighbor kid actually shielded the dog from the idiot cop's drawn revolver. The kid was maybe 10 years old.

Sonoman
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Remmah2 Donating Member (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:31 AM
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36. Gimme em a break. He was up against a tactical canine.
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SecularMotion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:37 PM
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6. The obvious answer is
this one shouldn't be a cop.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:41 PM
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7. Shooting a dog for running down the street?

This person needs a new career- after he goes to jail.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:44 PM
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8. Most CCW people are not that stupid. n-t
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:12 PM
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11. Provide verifiable evidence, including link.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:51 PM
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16. You need to prove my claim wrong. Look up the word "most". n-t
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 08:58 PM
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18. Easy.
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 09:00 PM by GreenStormCloud
Here is a link to the breakdown of conviction for crimes in the state of Texas by CHL holders for 2009 and compared to the general population. http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/ConvictionRatesReport2009.pdf

Here it is in graph form:


Blue conviction rate for general population, red is conviction rate for DHL holders. Data is for all crimes including non-violent crimes.

If we were as stupid as you think we are we would do more stupid illegal stuff and have a higher conviction rate.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 12:09 AM
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31. Deleted message
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:10 PM
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46. Is MOST a quantifiable number? Or does it imply that a few are?
MOST reassuring
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:46 PM
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9. I'm starting to think the only ones who shouldn't have any firearms
are the fucking police.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:52 PM
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+100
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YllwFvr Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 06:59 PM
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10. Things like this hurts all officers
Thanks mass media! Same way they leap on any poor gun story
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:21 PM
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12. Probably shouldn't hire folks for police who are that afraid of dogs.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:00 PM
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43. Ya think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-CWHJCyIdg&feature=fvst (at least the city stepped up on this one)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kJVnA5KXJw (this one I cannot understand at all. The back story better be fucking amazing)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mvIWFXbHNo (just awesome! :sarcasm:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0T2X1dXcI ("I got a dog in the car I don't want to jump out though")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is5nQ7DopCA (poor fella)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsDYCuvkiOU and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDa1T9OwRg (ok i get this one... deadly breed of dog.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EZwkNTkjyg (fences are not a way to restrain an animal)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUdsd8xLOyg (at least they do not shoot people by mistake when shooting at a dog. All that training and whatnot)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBP3nHJ-BGw (another deadly breed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eul8Bohn_Zk (classy!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRuYFuDfISc (A dog locked in a kennel... That's a shootin!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvS1TBQiBD4&NR=1 (hey! at least they left a note. "Dear resident, We shot your arthritic dog. Signed, The PoPo)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqwDnbdDQug (I got nothin on this one)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EfztqLMjJw (they should ban these breeds of dog)

Etc... etc... etc...
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:29 PM
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13. The poor baby was just a PUPPY! Just 8 months old! nt
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benboot Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:29 PM
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14. uh...and the rest of the story is....???
Thinking somehow this story is half the story.
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 07:52 PM
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17.  How much did he cost his employer, for all of the damage? n/t
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:04 PM
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19. Reminds me of a line from the movie "Lord of War".
The two guys watching a news report about OJ Simpson on TV at the hotel, one says "when I go to America, I will not live in Brentwood". He probably wouldn't like Camden either.



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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:33 PM
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21. Dude! You edited "pit bull" out of the headline - this would have gone to 500 responses,
easily, if you'd left that in... :rofl:
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:47 PM
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22. A chimpanzee in a full clown suit could have done it in like 6 shots
:)
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:13 PM
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23. I bet the cop was: young, Iraqi vet, on roid
I should be a profiler.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:20 PM
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24. Why are they allowed to carry 33 round magazines/clips ?!?
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:38 PM
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25. Probably just reloaded once, maybe twice.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 12:41 AM
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32. You mean you don't need "high capacity clips" to shoot dozens of rounds?
You can just reload?!?

But... but... but... the Brady Bunch morans have been saying all along how high cap mags are weapons of mass destruction and tey need banned so people can't shoot dozens of rounds quickly. :eyes:

:sarcasm:
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:48 AM
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39. They don't. This idiot reloaded.
Cops would have a fine time trying to get in and out of their cars with a 33-round mag inserted into their service weapon.
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:44 PM
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26. Several years ago a couple of buffalo
escaped from a packing plant on the West side of Colorado Springs. 2 or 3 CSPD officers found them at the end of a street in the front yard of a home and unloaded on them w/ their AR15s.

The cops fired over 200 rounds and hit the buffalo about 15 times. They hit cars, they hit houses they hit the neigbor's dog they hit everything on that street but the damn buffalo

There is now a containment fence around the unloading area of the packing plant
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 10:58 PM
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27. Shit.
They couldn't hit a cow on the ass with a boat paddle.
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 08:45 AM
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34. I don't know about that
but they obviously couldn't hit a buffalo across a normal sized front yard
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:49 AM
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40. .223 is not lawful for hunting DEER, let alone Buffalo.
I hope those cops are unemployed. That is a cruel death for such a large animal, stormtrooper shooting skills notwithstanding.
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 02:12 PM
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47.  I have a Sharps 45-100-530 that would do it better, faster, and in one shot. n/t
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:14 PM
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29. In Mexico cops are effectively supposed to be the only ones
I know gun ownership isn't banned; however, the shut down of all private gun stores was a back door ban on guns in mexico

So now the cops are just about the "only ones" there and they are also often involved in the drug cartels.

Now there are people in juarez who desperately want a gun to defend themselves. Some have tried using hunting rifles to defend themselves.

So to sum things up. Mexico bans "assault rifles" and every drug gangster has a full auto "assault rifle" and uses it to harm others. The USA does not ban semi auto military style rifles and many law abiding people have them and they are rarely used in violent crime. Duhhh, let's follow mexico's lead duhhhh. You'd have to be a total idiot to want to copy Mexican gun laws.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 11:48 PM
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30. "Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice"
Not "anything worth sending to heaven is worth shooting thrice eleven"


I mean, really... this is just excessive.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 06:19 AM
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33. Happens from time to time.
Edited on Thu Apr-21-11 06:20 AM by Glassunion
I was in NJ, and had pulled into the parking lot of a store. The police had blocked off one of the entrances to the store and were directing customers to enter from the other side of the foyer.

An apparently rabid raccoon had backed itself into the doorway and was growling at anyone who came near. I have never heard a raccoon make that sort of a sound.

Anyway, the officer had to use one of those ropes on a stick to get the animal out of the doorway and out onto the lawn. As I sat in my car watching it was absolutely heartbreaking to hear the animal and I knew that the officer was going to put it down. Another officer approached and spoke into his radio. From the little bit that I picked up, he was notifying dispatch that he was going to be discharging his weapon to put down the animal. I heard a response come back over the radio, then the officer approached the raccoon, who the other officer was pinning to the ground with the rope/stick thing, and drew his weapon, aimed and then fired. Boom... From my time at the range I would wage a guess that they use .40. The report from the firearm was quite loud as it was contained by the building. It made my one ear ring a bit.

At first I thought it was the most gruesome thing I had ever seen... When the officer had fired, there was a huge red cloud that had sprayed both officers legs to the point that they jumped back, like you would when you drop a cup of coffee. That sort of stiff legged backward shuffle. There was a long moment of silence as the two officers, standing in a small cloud of gun-smoke, looked at each other for a moment, then at their pants, then back down at the raccoon. Who I then noticed was still thrashing around. Holy shit! This is the toughest mother fucking raccoon on the planet.

The officer who took the shot then spoke into his radio. I could not hear what was said or what came back. The officer then angled himself again, took aim, then fired. Boom! This time I had my finger blocking my ear. And once again, there was another horrid red cloud that erupted all over their pants... I could not believe how horribly gruesome this was. It was like a horror film that I could not tare my eyes from. At this point, the officer holding the stick seemed upset and said something to the officer that took the shot. He was pointing at the raccoon and then at his pants through a gently wafting cloud of gun-smoke. Again, the raccoon was seemingly not affected by any of this as it was still thrashing about at the end of the stick. I was in complete disbelief.

Once again, the officer spoke into his radio and received a reply that I could not make out. This time, the two of them had moved about two paces to the right dragging the poor raccoon with them. They then angled themselves a bit differently with the officer who was shooting, this time was crouching almost directly in front of the officer holding the stick. There was a long pause while the officer was aiming at the raccoon at the end of the stick. Then again, there was the loud boom. Followed this time by a larger red eruption, that did not completely spray back at the officers. Then there was a long pause. It seemed like forever the two officers were peering at the raccoon, who was now not moving. The officer that took the shot then turned back to stand, looking at the officer holding the stick, and as he was turning, I noticed that the crouching officer had blood on his face. Holy shit! That is gross, he literally had about 5 solid splatters on his face that were running down to his neck and chin... One was on his mouth. Oh man, this officer now has to go to the hospital I thought.

The two officers stood silent for a moment. The smoke had cleared, the air was silent, and all I could hear was the clicking of the lights on the patrol vehicles. It was an eerie, gruesome sight that will stick with me forever. The officer with the blood stained face, then, just simply wiped his face in the crook of his sleeve. The officer then got back onto the radio and exchanged something with dispatch. It was at this point that I noticed the raccoon was trying to get free again. I was in stunned shock at the sight. How the hell could anything that small, live through such a barrage? Was the little guy on PCP, was he a zombie, or did he have some sort of strain of super rabies? Nothing could live through that. NOTHING!

As the officer finished talking on the radio, the officer holding the stick said something to the officer. I did not pick up what he said at all, but the other officer snapped loudly back, "I KNOW!" and crouched again, taking aim at the raccoon. This time, there were two loud shots, fired about 1/2 a second apart. This time there was no red cloud. I thought, of course, how could there be any blood left in the little guy. The officer then stood as the other officer worked the pole stick off of the raccoon and walked back to their vehicle. Leaving behind the small little mound of raccoon on the lawn. "How very sad", I thought.

As the officers were walking back to their vehicles I overheard them speaking. The officer that was holding the stick was talking to the officer that took the shots. What I over heard suddenly made the entire scene not so gruesome at all... He simply said, "But you got mud all over us.". To which the shooting officer replied, "I know... I'm sorry.". The other officer then simply asked "How did you miss four times?"

Maybe it's just something with the NJ police?
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 02:09 AM
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51. ROFL! Excellent writeup...
:)
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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 08:55 AM
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35. That little blemish...
on the officer's record is going to follow him for the rest of his career. I suspect that career may be cut a bit short.

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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:15 PM
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49. A dead dog and 32 negligently fired bullets wizing by children isn't a blemish.
He deserves to lose not just his career, but his entire job.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-11 01:33 AM
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50. And it should be
Firing 33 shots in a residential neighborhood because he believes an 8 month old puppy across the street might threaten him is completely irresponsible.

I wouldn't trust that asshole to hand out parking tickets on a foot patrol.
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