Felon arrested on gun charge linked to (racist) taco stand protests

[jpak]

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/apr/20/extremist-arrested-federal-gun-charges/

A Whitman County man who bragged online about being involved with racist taco truck protests in Kootenai County was arrested on a federal gun charge Wednesday.

Jeremiah Daniel “J.D.” Hop, who describes himself as an anti-race-mixing activist on the racist website Vanguard News Network, is accused of being a felon in possession of a firearm.

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Under the name WhitePhoenix, a man who identified himself as Hop wrote on the racist website Stormfront about his work protesting taco stands in the Coeur d’Alene area.

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“We see them plenty and the general public hates that they can’t do a legal thing…to us,” according to the post.

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How do these assholes get their guns? What law abiders would sell them?

[Gman]

1. What do you mean??? God gave them the right to have that gun!

Didn't you get the memo?

[right2bfree]

23. Criminals...err.....I mean "law-abiding" gun owner do when they dont lock them up. nt

[AtheistCrusader]

2. A criminal, that's who.

Find em' tag em' stick em' in jail.

[jpak]

3. Where do criminals get them?

:shrug:

[RaleighNCDUer]

8. "shrug" is right - these guys will NEVER admit that every single illegal weapon

on the streets started out as a legal weapon.

[AtheistCrusader]

11. Not necessarily 'every' but 'most' would be a fair statement.

Some weapons ARE smuggled into the United States from abroad. So that would be a weapon that started it's life within our borders on an unlawful basis.

Small percentage though. Most are stolen, or unlawfully transferred from a legal owner that simply hasn't been caught and convicted yet, to a scumbag.

[AtheistCrusader]

9. Illegal transfers, or theft.

Like drugs and everything else contraband, there is always a market for it. Since the market will bring higher prices for selling XYZ thing to a prohibited consumer, it creates incentive for gun dealers and such to break the law. It creates incentive for thieves to steal guns, to re-sell.

I'd be on-board with full registration, except that the Government has abused registration in the past to confiscate weapons, so, I have no pull with fellow gun owners on pushing forward full registration.

Sucks, but what're you gonna do? They blew it. (Specifically the state of California)

[safeinOhio]

18. Those guns in California were long guns.

Few long guns are used in crimes. Registration of handguns is a different story. I'm all for registration of handguns and making private sales of handguns require a background check. I'm not for registration of long guns.

[AtheistCrusader]

21. Nope.

Not different. Registration is registration. If the feds had stepped in and stomped on the state for doing it, that would be one thing. They didn't, firearm owners got completely hosed, or turned into criminals overnight. Unacceptable.


The type of firearm is immaterial. Both long guns and handguns carry the same hypothetical risk, since there is an interest in regulating cyclic rate and capacity.

[rrneck]

22. The ever popular market will always respond.

Register handguns and suddenly long guns adapted to be somehow as close to a handgun as possible to avoid registration will appear on the market.

You're proposing another AWB.

[spin]

10. Read and learn ...

Hot guns, How Criminals Get Guns

by Dan Noyes, Center for Investigative Reporting

Ask a cop on the beat how criminals get guns and you're likely to hear this hard boiled response: "They steal them." But this street wisdom is wrong, according to one frustrated Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) agent who is tired of battling this popular misconception. An expert on crime gun patterns, ATF agent Jay Wachtel says that most guns used in crimes are not stolen out of private gun owners' homes and cars. "Stolen guns account for only about 10% to 15% of guns used in crimes," Wachtel said. Because when they want guns they want them immediately the wait is usually too long for a weapon to be stolen and find its way to a criminal.

In fact, there are a number of sources that allow guns to fall into the wrong hands, with gun thefts at the bottom of the list. Wachtel says one of the most common ways criminals get guns is through straw purchase sales. A straw purchase occurs when someone who may not legally acquire a firearm, or who wants to do so anonymously, has a companion buy it on their behalf. According to a 1994 ATF study on "Sources of Crime Guns in Southern California," many straw purchases are conducted in an openly "suggestive" manner where two people walk into a gun store, one selects a firearm, and then the other uses identification for the purchase and pays for the gun. Or, several underage people walk into a store and an adult with them makes the purchases. Both of these are illegal activities.

The next biggest source of illegal gun transactions where criminals get guns are sales made by legally licensed but corrupt at-home and commercial gun dealers. Several recent reports back up Wachtel's own studies about this, and make the case that illegal activity by those licensed to sell guns, known as Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs), is a huge source of crime guns and greatly surpasses the sale of guns stolen from John Q. Citizen. Like bank robbers, who are interested in banks, gun traffickers are interested in FFLs because that's where the guns are. This is why FFLs are a large source of illegal guns for traffickers, who ultimately wind up selling the guns on the street.

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While many guns are taken off the street when people are arrested and any firearms in their possession are confiscated, a new study shows how easily arrestees believe they could illegally acquire another firearm. Supported by the National Institute of Justice and based on interviews with those recently arrested, the study acknowledges gun theft is common, with 13 percent of all arrestees interviewed admitting that they had stolen a gun. However a key finding is that "the illegal market is the most likely source" for these people to obtain a gun. "In fact, more than half the arrestees say it is easy to obtain guns illegally," the report states. Responding to a question of how they obtained their most recent handgun, the arrestees answered as follows: 56% said they paid cash; 15% said it was a gift; 10% said they borrowed it; 8% said they traded for it; while 5% only said that they stole it.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/procon/guns.html

[NewMoonTherian]

24. Ok wait. Legitimately trying to understand your position.

Because criminals might steal guns from innocent gun owners, there is just cause to... to do what? Full ban? Registration? Mag capacity limits?

[one-eyed fat man]

4. How do you get your dope?

Ask the guy you buy your weed from if he can get you a gun.

[rrneck]

7. And how much does he get? nt

[rrneck]

5. Sheeeeiit.

"Two days later, he titled his post “North Idaho five weeks and going…” and said he was working to bring “the mexican taco cart foothold to the attention of the locals here in couer d’alene/Hayden.” "

:rofl:

Run for your lives! The taco carts are coming to take our freedoms!

An idiot got busted. Nobody got hurt. Unrec.

[AtheistCrusader]

12. You'll have to pry my favorite taco truck out of my cold, dead hands.

[rrneck]

13. Well, it is gas operated... nt

[petronius]

25. I'm sure he was a nuisance to truck operators, but that did make me laugh

Looking for a crusade to impress all his racist buddies, and that was the best he could come up with? :rofl:

[spin]

6. I think every poster here believes violent criminals should not own firearms. (n/t)

[lawodevolution]

14. Unrec for deceptive propaganda, anti gun folk are racist

And support laws that make it harder, more expensive or impossible to purchase a gun for people in areas with a higher percentage of minorities while the white suburbs and rural areas have plenty of access to weapons.

[NBachers]

15. My god, how could someone protest a Taco Truck?

I just had an Al Pastor Super Burrito from one of our local Taco Trucks last night.

I can imagine how Taco Truck protests would go over here in San Francisco.

Here's a picture of the insidious criminals undermining our nation from their food kiosks:



I recommended, but the unrec is strong today

[AtheistCrusader]

16. Simple: They are racists.

Bad people, motivated by unreasonable, bad intentions. Scum. Also, criminals, since he was a felon, in possession of a firearm, which is illegal in and of itself.

Off to jail he goes.

[GreenStormCloud]

17. Already illegal. Do you want to make it doubleplus illegal?

So a criminal committed a crime and got caught. That is no reason to take my guns away from me.

[WatsonT]

19. If he's a felon he shouldn't be legally allowed to have a gun

meaning we need more laws to . . . wait a second!

[ManiacJoe]

20. My money says the illegal sale of the gun goes unprosecuted.

:grr: