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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:12 AM Original message |
After Altercation, Philadelphia Police Say They Won't Look the Other Way on Open-Carry Gun Owners |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
1. If they want to act like gangsters by carrying a big gun, they should be treated like gangsters. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Or perhaps police should scrupulously obey the law and treat all citizens with respect, |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Open carry is stupid and they deserve the "inconvenience" |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Do you support the police threatening to "inconvenience" peaceful and |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Exactly.. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. IMHO - anyone openly carrying a gun is not "peaceful" - it's intimidation |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. If thats your opinion and you feel threatened fine. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. If I see someone outside of hunting season carrying a gun, then I will call the cops |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Until they start charging people who do such things.. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Open carry dudes will have to get a clue - the majority of Americans do not think they are cool |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Cool isn't the point, legal or illegal is. |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
128. in philly maybe, but you should probably stop telling us |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #128 |
135. It's not uncommon... |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 06:05 AM Response to Reply #135 |
149. and thats what it seems to be |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Bullshit. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. An armed stranger is a danger - and calling the cops is my right |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I hope you call them all you want. nt |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
93. Make sure you answer truthfully when they ask if the person is doing anything illegal. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. You're asking an aweful lot. |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
129. where im from needlessly calling the police is a crime |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
51. Go to Arizona and try out your plan when you see someone OC. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Why would anyone want to go to Arizona? |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. I have been there many times. Beautiful state. N/T |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #58 |
173. As they say in Italy |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. OK try it in Vermont or Wyoming |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
77. Ah, more bigotry from you. |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
126. outside of philly the way things seem to get handled |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. You are certainly welcome to an opinion, but yours doesn't square with the law |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Cops are not going to risk their lives for your interpretation of the law |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. You continue to evade the real question - do you approve of police violating the law |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. The advocates of police exercise of extrajudicial powers won't explicitly admit it |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. It is disturbing, but not uncommon. Too many people will sacrifice principle |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
124. How is a cop checking to see if you are legally carrying different |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Have you read the thread? As I've said a few time (including in the post you responded to), |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #125 |
156. So, are you suggesting that the police in Phillie should ignore anyone |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. Reading comprehension is your friend: |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #156 |
158. I'm suggesting that the police should not hassle, harrass, or inconvenience law-abiding persons |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. OK, so let's say you are a cop and you see 6 guys wearing hoodies |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. There will almost certainly be more data available than that.... |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #160 |
162. So you'd just walk on by, right? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 07:01 AM Response to Reply #162 |
163. No, it's not a binary solution set. |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #163 |
164. OK, you've observed. Now what and to whom do you report? |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #164 |
166. Send in Cleavon Little with a candygram for Mongo. nt |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #164 |
167. Sigh. Obtuse, much? n/t |
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Starboard Tack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #167 |
171. I'm usually good at puzzles, but you got me there. A verb might help. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:11 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Is a hoodie a sign of suspicious character in your world? |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #124 |
131. in pa, mere possession of a weapon does not indicate a crime |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
66. And they will continue to be sued |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
130. you are incorrect |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
76. Only if you can prove it to the Supreme Court. |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
87. Why do you oppose the intimidation of criminals? |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
127. like the police when they carry nt |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. How does one know who is law abiding and who is not |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Pay attention to those around you. |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Well, in that case |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. If you shoot someone |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
132. it works the same for the LEO |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Stating you should be more aware of your surroundings... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
78. He said "PAY ATTENTION", not "SHOOT THE FUCKERS". |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Without probable cause, the police have no legitimate power to detain anyone. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
41. How do police know that anyone in public is law-abiding? Given that OC is legal, |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
67. Do you really think criminals OC? |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. If everyone else is |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
96. Yeah, that happens in the other states that allow OC, right? |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Who knows? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:04 PM Response to Reply #99 |
106. Because a simple Terry Stop would nail them with a felony charge. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 07:34 AM Response to Reply #72 |
108. Because OCing requires a holster, and criminals don't like holsters |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. I'm almost sure the bad guys wouldn't even think that far |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. When you do something bad. |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #109 |
140. Stuffed in a waistband. |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 07:04 AM Response to Reply #140 |
150. Caint tell no jokes |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
88. The good guy is the one with nothing to fear with a gun on his hip. |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #88 |
103. That should translate to the bad guy too, |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
92. We're not complaining about cops checking permits |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #92 |
102. I'm sure that'll go over real well |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #102 |
120. Then surely they should do that for ANY interaction with Citizens, yes? n/t |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #102 |
121. The police |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #102 |
133. in pa the courts have rulled mere possession of a weapon isnt |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 05:30 AM Response to Reply #102 |
148. Okay, let's put ourselves in the mind of a "felon in possession" |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
101. Unless they break the law |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
65. And all those protesters in WI should have been inconvinienced |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
75. So you advocate violating people's Civil Rights? |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Carrying a gun isn't a license to act like an asshole. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. The police are threatening to "inconvenience" people who engage in a legal |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. The display of a weapon is not a "peaceable action" - it's an explicit threat. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. What a load of crap. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. By carrying a gun you're saying "If you don't behave in a manner I approve I can kill you." |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Again, what a load of crap... |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Looks like you're projecting... |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Are we a civilized society? Advocates of open carry would like it not to be. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. I can |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. So you advocate for concealed carry? n/t |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
81. Are you volunteering to help provide security for those you would disarm? |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Not in the least. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
80. Oh, and you aren't, here in this thread? n/t |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #80 |
112. Nope. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #112 |
113. See post 110 (when they do something bad) nt |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #112 |
119. Observation, my dear Watson. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Your attitude is neither intelligent nor mature. nt |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
90. You don't actually believe that sillines do you? |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
107. How about bad attitudes? |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Not according to law and common use of the language |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
134. the courts disagree with you |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. If someone was walking around carrying a machete, I would expect them to be confronted about it. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Are you picturing someone running through Macy's waving a naked blade, |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. You expect a lot of people to be confronted about a lot of things. |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. First thing |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Or duct tape everybody's hands together. |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
57. There's an underrepresented profession |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
115. I wouldn't it it were sheathed and no other threatening behavior was occurring. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Yeah, that's what the cops are for. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
45. It's certainly the reason many rights opponents post here. n/t |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. Realizing I can get into exceptional trouble when I carry, if I'm not careful |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
69. "Carrying a gun isn't a license to act like an asshole." |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. From what I gather, Fiorino was scrupulously polite throughout the stop |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
79. "too often"? How "often" is that? n/t |
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discntnt_irny_srcsm (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
63. Gangsters??? |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
68. You ARE referring to the Philadelphia PD, I take it? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. Well, except that legally exercising a Constitutional Civil Right.... |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
114. Your hatred for civil liberties is noted. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. I'm ordinarily |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
71. I 100% agree with you. I am not a fan of OC at all but also not a fan of police stupidity! n-t |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
97. So you agree that OC might be an option in this case? |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
13. Lets see just how long this goes... |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
54. Maybe they should form an 'Unarmed Citizens' Council' |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Sorry, corrected link: |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
31. This might cost Philadelphia a lot of money in the future.... |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
50. The cops will be setting themselves up for some big lawsuits over this. |
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DWC (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
60. The Philadelphia trial lawyers are celebrating over this one !! n/t |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
62. Why do you think the police should harass people for following the law? |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
64. That's right, because so many criminals OC |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
70. Hey, Idiotic Philly Police......... |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. That's kind of my thought |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
98. they would be the ones that would, as hoyt claims |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
82. I love it when police publicly announce their intention... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
84. And what is really baffling is why the entire remainder of the state has this figured out... |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #84 |
136. there are still incidents all over the state |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
85. I'm sure a lot of those officers were killed by OC persons. Sad to see my nation come to this... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #85 |
104. Presumably you intended this: |
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gravity556 (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #85 |
153. re:I'm sure a lot of those officers were killed by OC persons. Sad to see my nation come to this... |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
86. dup |
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discntnt_irny_srcsm (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
89. Look into treatment for... |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
91. Wonder what it is about a citizen exercising a right that's so scary? |
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discntnt_irny_srcsm (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. When... |
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sylvi (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
100. Amazing |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. Bingo. It is quite disgusting. Should be a bannable offense. n/t |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
111. Perfectly reasonable. If a person chooses to carry, police have a duty to check em out. |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. I take it you did not read the article closely |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. We are not talking hair, clothes, ethnicity, or anything like that. We're talking potential Loughner |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Bull |
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YllwFvr (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #118 |
138. commonwealth vs hawkins |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #118 |
139. "...the guy from Philadelphia was definitely out to cause a confrontation." We've heard this before: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. Deleted message |
eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #141 |
142. Oh what the fuck ever. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. Your gun carrying has nothing to do with human rights, equality, respect, etc. Think! |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. Actually, I think it has to do with human rights, at least. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. I suspect self-defense is not considered a human right by certain posters here. |
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LibertyFox (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #143 |
155. "God created man, but Col. Colt made them equal." |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #155 |
169. Was That An Old Colt Advertisement? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #169 |
172. Actually, it's not solely down to any one factor. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #155 |
170. This was engraved on a Colt Model P revolver.......... |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #141 |
145. "You(r) gun toting buddy was looking for trouble with a gun and recorder." |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:38 PM Response to Reply #141 |
147. Correction |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 07:05 AM Response to Reply #147 |
151. Hoyt assumes lots of things he doesn't know, and doesn't limit himself to history... n/t |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #147 |
152. Not many (if any), and the bigots that were after them were real. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
116. It might take a nice lawsuit to get them to see the error of their ways. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #116 |
123. I'm sure one will happen, maybe even a dozen or two... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
137. So let me get this straight.... |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #137 |
165. antis will gladly pay for the lawsuits, if they get to intimidate Open Carriers |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
154. DON'T FIREBOMB ME BRO !! |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #154 |
168. Move for a shotgun or 2 and a pistol |
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