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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:27 PM
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Pew research poll showing Kerry winning big on gun stance
Three-in-Ten Voters Open to Persuasion
Swing Voters Criticize Bush on Economy, Support Him on Iraq

Released: March 3, 2004

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Summary of Findings

Heading into an eight-month marathon to Election Day, President Bush and Sen. John Kerry already command strong support from their respective parties and will now try to win over those in the middle ­ the estimated three-in-ten voters who have not yet fully committed to either candidate. Overall, 38% of voters support Kerry and say they have definitely decided not to vote for Bush. A third of voters support Bush and say there is no chance they will vote for Kerry.



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Similarly, a majority of Bush supporters (56%) say it is more important to protect the rights of gun owners than to control gun ownership. Only 26% of Kerry voters agree, and swing voters (at 37% agreement) fall closer to Kerry supporters than to Bush supporters.

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<http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=205>
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:49 PM
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1. I would be curious...
...to find out how highly these "swing voters" rate gun control as an issue when deciding who to vote for. Of the 37% who believe it is more important to protect the rights of gun owners how many rate this issue as highly important as compared to the 57% who feel it is important to control gun ownership?

Also how many of the bush supporters do so because of this issue?

How do these surveyors expect us to have a good flame war if they are not going to ask the right questions?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 11:17 PM
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4. yeah
bastard surveyors. I SO look forward to a good flame war.
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jimsteuben Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 12:23 AM
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5. flame wars...
Flame-throwers are legal. No license, no nuthin'.....

Maybe we should have a five-day waiting period on buying gasoline and fertilzer?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:01 AM
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11. oh, this group can produce their own fertilizer
don't think that can be questioned!
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:21 AM
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13. My nomination for Gungeon quote of the day.
That was great, lunabush. It does get deep in here.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:40 AM
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14. Meanwhile, back on topic...
Reuters sums it up very well:

"The NRA, which considers Bush a close ally, had pushed hard for the legislation that would have shielded the industry from lawsuits attempting to hold manufacturers, dealers or distributors responsible for gun violence. Pending cases that could have been affected include those filed by policemen shot on the job and relatives of the Washington snipers' victims.
"The NRA does best when it's operating behind the scenes, below the radar screen," said Robert Spitzer, an expert on gun politics at the State University of New York at Cortland.
"Dwelling on these issues doesn't help the president," Spitzer said. "And Kerry leveled some fire against Bush using this issue as a launching pad. He can say that Bush is in the hip pocket of the special interests and the far right." "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040304/pl_nm/campaign_guns_dc_1

Turn the light on the gun lobby and its supporters and they scatter and run like cockroaches.
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:25 PM
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15. My wise ass comment aside
The survey does not shed any new light on this issue.

You are correct though, we no doubt will find plenty to argue about all on our own with out any help from pew.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 10:52 PM
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2. Very misleading title
Does not describe the article linked to whatsoever.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 11:11 PM
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3. There's only ONE poll that makes any difference at all
The big one that will happen in November.

All other polls are meaningless.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:31 AM
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6. Tie the Chimp to assault rifles and the gun show loophole
and watch those Kerry numbers climb!

Voters want meaningful common sense gun control.
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:00 AM
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7. He will sign the AWB...
Think he will have the chance?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:29 AM
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8. I think the unelected drunk will do nothing at all
trying to appease the Tim McVeigh wannabe crowd...and that he should have his feet held to the fire for it.
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:01 AM
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9. Bomb legislation?
Didn't hear about it. If the AWB gets to his desk he will sign it. He may hope it doesn't get there. He may even hope another, "unacceptable" bill is passed. But that would probably be signed, too. After all, it gives the AG more power.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:28 AM
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10. The RKBA crowd still has Roy Moore to cheer for
He's gun rights all the way, and even was out playinng kissy face with the Militia of Montana the other day. He'll fit the bill for you gun huggers here.
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:23 PM
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18. Roy Moore???
No clue. What is his crime?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:24 PM
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19. He's pro-gun all the way
Isn't that good enough for you? Larry Pratt lu-u-u-u-u-uvs him.

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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:26 PM
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20. I have never heard of him...
Sorry. What was his crime. Oh yeah, he is RKBA. Is that the only one?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:31 PM
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21. I keep hearing the RKBA crowd say that's all they look for
in a candidate..so he's your huckleberry and welcome to him.
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:38 PM
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22. What office is he running for?
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Stoker Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:02 PM
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23. It's not all /I/ look for...
It's not all I look for, but it is a disqualifying issue. I can't trust any politician that doesn't trust me with a gun.

Stoker
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:07 PM
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24. He is seeking what office?
I think he missed the filing deadline here, so we don't know much of him.
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:23 AM
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27. Must have dropped off the ballot...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:27 AM
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28. Too TOO funny
Edited on Fri Mar-05-04 08:28 AM by MrBenchley
You sure you can't even guess what public office is being discussed in this thread?

You don't have even a clue?

You wanted to piss and moan about somebody winning an office, but you didn't know what office it was?

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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:33 AM
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29. Not here...
Haven't heard of him. Well, I have heard allegations around he might be a criminal or some other innuendo. When I hear about him around these parts, I'll be sure to reply here first.
Enjoy your weekend. GTG.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:37 AM
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31. And you can't guess which office he's planning to run for?
Want a hint? Take look at the title of the thread.
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:36 AM
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30. "your huckleberry"
You actually watched Tombstone? With all those guns and violence?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:39 AM
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32. Ever hear of Phil Rizzuto?
And yeah, I did see Tombstone.....but unlike some people, I know the difference between reality and cowboy movies.
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 09:26 AM
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33. I will agree with you
it didn't follow reality at all to what really happened. Authors name escapes me, there is a book titled "To die in the west" written by a AZ historian, get the true story what happened.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 10:14 AM
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12. The difference between Bush and Kerry on gun issues
Doesn't add up to a hill of beans.
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Dolomite Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 02:08 PM
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16. I found a picture of Kerry with a few of the people that took that poll
Edited on Thu Mar-04-04 02:09 PM by Dolomite


"Pew" is right... ...and people ask me why I voted for Howard in the WI Primary...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 02:17 PM
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17. Gee, Democrat-bashing from the RKBA crowd?
Who'd have guessed that?

"people ask me why I voted for Howard in the WI Primary."
Gee, Dr. Dean supported the AWB and closing the gun show loophole.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:48 PM
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25. Sheep on the march...
Edited on Thu Mar-04-04 07:49 PM by Baclava
"Allright now, ya'll line up in a circle, alphabetical by height, with the tallest in the middle!!"

Bleh...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 06:59 AM
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26. Funny, it was the herd of right wing assholes
who turned tail in unison when the bad shepherd sent them an e-mail.
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