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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:12 AM
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Now that we've done the political compass...
Lets do the Libertarian Purity Test. Let's see how libertarian we really are. I doubt many of us will score very high. http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi/purity.cgi I'm going to take it and post my results after lunch. Have at it.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:22 AM
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1. Yikes
frightening stuff.

6-15 points: You are starting to have libertarian leanings. Explore them.
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Narf Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:24 AM
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2. 60
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:28 AM
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3. 47
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 11:29 AM by slackmaster
"Your libertarian credentials are obvious. Doubtlessly you will become more extreme as time goes on."

I just couldn't accept eliminating all anti-discrimination laws, safety regulations, licensing of doctors, etc.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:41 AM
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8. Yeah, I want my cops privatized
Wackenhut has worked out SO well with prisons. :eyes:

Geeez, privitization is always the answer, isn't it? Yep, outsourcing service and supply has been just great in Iraq, huh? And we can always trust large corps like Halliburton to do the right thing - particularly when we do away with the regulartory agencies.

Hell, lets eliminate the government totally (I'll eliminate the State for 5 points, Wink).
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:51 AM
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10. Agreed,
Some of the pure libertarian positions are absolutely absurd.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:33 AM
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4. Why?
Who the hell wants to be libertarian?
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:39 AM
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7. Better than being an authoritarian.
Heck, your political compass said you had some libertarian leanings, didn't it?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 12:08 PM
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14. Who ARE you trying to kid?
The only difference between an ordinary right wing shitheel and a libertarian is that a libertarian has a modem.
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 12:10 PM
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15. Well, you claimed to have a libertarian score
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 12:11 PM by FatSlob
on the political compass in this thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x46869#46901

Does that make you a right wing shitheel with a modem?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:35 PM
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19. No, fat slob...
I reported the score that cockamamie test assigned, which was well to the left.

"Does that make you a right wing shitheel with a modem? "
No, that would be the sort of humhole that posts crap from sites like "MensNews Daily" and expects it to be taken seriously.

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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:20 PM
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26. Humhole...
You use that term frequently and to little effect, what does it mean? Well, I am pleased that penis references have largely fallen by the wayside. Please, take my hand, as we continue the march towards civilised discussion.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:33 PM
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28. Some terms just spring to mind when faced with Jackney Sneeb
and MensNewsDaily....and all the other crap dredged up here on a regular basis.
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:36 AM
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5. 22
16-30 points: You are a soft-core libertarian. With effort, you may harden and become pure. Soft-core...hmmm...
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:37 AM
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6. WHOA!
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 11:38 AM by FatSlob
I'm shocked. I got an 76! This is unbelievable. I'm going to take it again later, when I'm not feeling so rebellious. I wonder if my score will change.

edit to correct score and for:

It says that I am a Medium Core libertarian.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:42 AM
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9. Too friggin Right Wing for this board, Slob
say good night!

heh-heh
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:52 AM
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11. Yup, I guess I truly am a libertarian Democrat.
Remember, lunabush, right wing is economic, at least according to the political compass. Ahhh, screw it all!
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:56 AM
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12. I'm with ya
though the libertarian poll we just looked at largely focused on econ. I had a little more faith in the politcal compass as a valid (relatively speaking) instrument. Particularly since I scored similar several months ago.

Another thing that turned me off on the Lib quiz was the RW-ish yes or no, black or white response choices.
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:59 AM
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13. I think you are correct.
The political compass poll was more accurate, in that you could have two levels of afreement or disagreement. On many of the "purity test" items, I found myself thinking, "I kind of agree with this, but think that XXXX should apply too." I wanted a middle type of vote, if you inderstand what I am saying.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:10 PM
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16. I like this political quiz better.
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:17 PM
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17. I got a 9
how did you do?
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Narf Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:20 PM
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18. 6
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:36 PM
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20. Jackney Sneeb....
Hokay....

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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:51 PM
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21. Not much of a survey maker
is he, from a guy who spends his days making surveys. :)

I loved this question:

The lesser of two evils is better than none at all.

none what? Leave many open-ended questions hanging around much?

Oh, but wait, here is the Nadarish response:

"The lesser of two evils is better than none at all." In a presidential election, for example, if you settle for the second-worst evil, and the worst evil dies -- aren't you now stuck with the worst evil? Of all the justifications for evil, this is just about the most absurd.

Guess I should just drop out and wait for utopia. That's effective.

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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:55 PM
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23. I would have said
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 01:57 PM by FeebMaster
The lesser of two evils is better than no evil at all.


I just enjoyed the little descriptions for each score.

"You're a state-worshipping authoritarian; you probably vote Democrat or Republican along strict party lines." Hahah.

This one is even better:

"You would most likely shove your neighbors into ovens if the authorities told you to!"
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:55 PM
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22. I think the test misinterpreted me ;)
I mean, I think my reasons for recommending that the US get the hell out of the rest of the world are maybe a little different from what they were going for, f'r instance.

"16-30 points: You are a soft-core libertarian. With effort, you may harden and become pure."

Darn, one point less and I would have been:

"6-15 points: You are starting to have libertarian leanings. Explore them."

But that's only because they decided to define what I think as "libertarian". I don't, not by their definition.


The political compass's use of the word "libertarian" was quite different, of course; it referred to matters of true personal autonomy, and true personal autonomy really doesn't involve abolishing health and safety regulations and minimum wages and anti-discrimination laws; quite the contrary.

The word has just been co-opted and corrupted by right-wing shitheels like those folks. ;)

.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:52 PM
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29. Aren't "purity tests" really swell?
Who has enough "libertarian purity" to suit these guys?
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Narf Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:58 PM
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24. Since were all taking tests...
How 'bout this one?
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:04 PM
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25. I never cared for that one.
It tries to make everyone a libertarian.

This one is smaller:

http://www.no-treason.com/laissezfirearm/quiz.htm
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:24 PM
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27. I ended up on the centrist/liberal/libertarian border
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