FatSlob
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Tue Jun-01-04 10:17 AM
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Three Months and Two Weeks... |
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...from now will mean the end of the idiotic AWB of 1994. Once again, cosmetic features will be legal!
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slackmaster
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Tue Jun-01-04 10:21 AM
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1. And all the whining and wailing from both sides shall cease |
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Merciful quiet. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
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FatSlob
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Tue Jun-01-04 10:23 AM
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2. I'm sure that Sarah Brady will be screaming that the world is ending, |
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and Diane Feinstein and Mike Dewine will probably end up holed up in a bunker somewhere waiting for the shit to hit the fan. For everybody else, life will go on.
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Tue Jun-01-04 11:03 AM
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you should say that...
"I'm sure that Sarah Brady will be screaming that the world is ending,"
Well, I don't want to let the cat out of the bag just yet, but just don't forget that sentence FS.
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Tue Jun-01-04 11:14 AM
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FeebMaster
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Tue Jun-01-04 11:35 AM
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What else do the gun grabbers have to cry about really? I expect cries to renew or expand the AWB will cease but cries to restore the AWB will start.
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Tue Jun-01-04 11:40 AM
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It'll be dead.. There's no way they can get it back within 4 or 5 years. When blood isn't running in the streets, then it'll be shown how silly of a ban it really was.
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Tue Jun-01-04 12:32 PM
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8. I don't think we're ever more than |
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one high profile shooting away from more gun control.
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slackmaster
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Tue Jun-01-04 01:23 PM
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13. I'm confident they will think of something else |
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Easily concealable handguns, large-caliber rifles, rifles that are "more accurate than any legitimate sporting use requires", magnum shotguns, .17 caliber rifles; you name it.
Whatever it turns out to be, they'll call it the weapon of choice for the Bogeyman du jours be he the faceless terrorist, the gangster, the pedophile.
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Tue Jun-01-04 10:30 AM
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3. At that point maybe, just maybe |
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all the liberals and progressives here at DU can they stop attacking Dems and get down to the business of making certain we don't have to deal with the boy king for another 4.
Well, I can dream, can't I?
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Tue Jun-01-04 12:49 PM
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9. And The First Time a Bank Gets Robbed With an AK-47..... |
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...I'll say "I told you so."
:-)
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FatSlob
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Tue Jun-01-04 01:02 PM
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10. The Automat Kalishnikov Model of 1947 |
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Is not covered by the AWB. It is covered by the NFA of 1934. Therefore the expiration of the AWB will not effect it.
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Tue Jun-01-04 01:09 PM
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...let me rephrase this.
The first time someone uses a weapon banned by the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban to rob a bank, I'll say "I told you so."
Better???
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FatSlob
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Tue Jun-01-04 01:20 PM
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The below is for a hypothetical bad guy. If the below happens, how is it different than the robbery without the Flash suppressor?
1. AWB of 1994 expires 2. Bad guy owns AR-style rifle. 3. Bad guy puts flash suppressor on rifle, putting the rifle into a configuration that was prohibited under the now expired AWB. 4. Bad guy robs bank using the AR-style rifle as his weapon.
What is the difference between the above scenario and the above with part 3 missing? The AWB has nothing to do with crime.
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Tue Jun-01-04 01:37 PM
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...pro-gunners have been saying all along that the AWB does nothing to stop crime. I'm saying that if the ban is lifted and one of the banned weapons IS used to commit a crime, their argument is blown out of the water.
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Tue Jun-01-04 01:42 PM
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Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 01:53 PM by FatSlob
Are you familiar with what the AWB is? Do you know what it does? If so, please indicate what it does. I have the feeling that you are not fully informed. I get this feeling because you support the ban, which bans cosmetics only. The ban, to anybody who knows about it, is obviously not a crime fighting ban. It has no legitimate function that I can find.
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Tue Jun-01-04 01:50 PM
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17. I don't follow your logic |
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The fact that crimes are still committed with guns even with the AWB in force proves that it does not stop crime.
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Tue Jun-01-04 01:56 PM
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19. People Have Said the AWB Has No Effect On Crime |
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And if banned weapons are used to commit crimes after the ban is lifted, there is your effect.
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Tue Jun-01-04 02:13 PM
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23. Not sure why my post was erased |
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But 99.8% of all firearms are not used in any crimes. I wish cars had that kind of odds. So perhaps .2% of the banned weapons might be.
I'm not sure why that's a big deal overall, seems way overblown by the antis.
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Tue Jun-01-04 02:08 PM
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21. What banned weapons? (nt) |
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Tue Jun-01-04 02:08 PM
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22. And if the only effect is to cause armed criminals to use different guns |
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What is the benefit to society?
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Tue Jun-01-04 02:22 PM
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You are a reasonable individual. You know that cosmetics have nothing to do with crime.
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Tue Jun-01-04 01:52 PM
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as an 'assault rifle' is used for sporting purposes only, or for defense, I'll say 'I told you so'.
I'll only have to do that millions of times a year.
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Tue Jun-01-04 03:29 PM
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Tue Jun-01-04 01:24 PM
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14. Your statement will fall on deaf ears |
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Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 01:35 PM by slackmaster
The pro-RKBA side will say that crime could just have easily been perpetrated with what is presently known as a "post-ban" weapon or something that isn't even close to an "AW", and we'll be right.
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Tue Jun-01-04 04:16 PM
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26. An even more optimistic way of looking at it. |
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Congress takes a Summer recess on July 23rd. With holidays and weekends, there's only about 40 days left where the legislature is in session. Also, take into account that votes are seldom taken on Fridays or Mondays (when a number of Congress Critters are traveling to and from DC), and 1/3 of the Senate and all of the House will be more concerned with elections and campaigning; adds up to very few opportunities for the antis to sneak in an AWB bill or amendment.
The days just keep ticking away... :bounce:
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