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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:30 AM
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GUNS IN THE NEWS--June 30, 2004
As CO Liberal sez:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:35 AM
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1. Senators push for gun ban to be renewed
"California's U.S. senators, San Francisco's mayor and police chief and two people who lost their spouses to gun violence took aim Tuesday at Republican intransigence over renewing the federal assault-weapons ban.
"Mr. President, I implore you -- help us renew this legislation," appealed Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., reminding a news conference at the city's emergency communications center that President Bush campaigned on a promise to renew the ban for 10 more years. "Keep your word, Mr. President, keep your word."
Despite this and earlier entreaties, the White House has been largely reticent about renewing the ban, which expires Sept. 13. Although reauthorization would pass the Senate with a projected 52 votes, there's no movement in the House, and Bush -- who said he'd sign the reauthorization if it gets to his desk -- has ignored pleas to pressure House Republicans to act.
Steve Sposato of Lafayette -- whose wife, Jody, was among eight people slain in the 101 California St. massacre 11 years ago this Thursday -- said the National Rifle Association wants to protect the billion-dollar gun industry while his 11-year-old daughter is motherless and al-Qaida advises would-be terrorists that guns are easy to get in America. "Is that the America we want?" "

http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82~1865~2243851,00.html

It's clearly the America the Aryan Nation and John AshKKKroft want....and pointing out what sort of scummy thugs Chimpy is pandering to by putting these guns on the market is a win-win situation for Democrats.
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:44 AM
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2. Tell me again how the AWB affects the illegal black market...
You know, where criminals and terrorists acquire their guns?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:21 AM
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3. Cut The Supply, Cut the Black Market
It's as simple as that.
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 12:18 PM
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4. The supply of what is cut?
Edited on Wed Jun-30-04 12:19 PM by FatSlob
You are fully aware that the AWB did nothing to prevent the manufacture of these rifles. A few cosmetic changes and they are in the clear. Any claim that the AWB cut the supply of rifles is intellectually dishonest.
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 01:24 PM
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5. That strategy is working fantastic for illegal drugs.
n/t
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