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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:55 PM
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Anyone see this scathing NRA ILA attack on Kerry?
"Imagine if the enemies of the Second Amendment were able, through a Kerry presidency, to install their puppets on that court in the near future. That`s what we are all facing in this election. If Kerry can pack the court with people like Chuck Schumer, the Second Amendment as an individual right will be rendered null and void."

http://www.nraila.org/issues/Articles/Read.aspx?ID=136

And the attack monkeys are drooling....
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 12:55 AM
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1. Aside from being poorly written and having more spin than...
...your average washing machine, there are a lot of things there that are 100% true and easily verifiable. It helps to bolster the image here of the "weak on crime" appearances that Kerry has. He has already made his bed and plans on laying in it though.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 01:20 AM
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2. But he's a hunter!
A picture is worth more than a thousand votes, didn't you know?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:11 AM
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3. The NRA Should Be Rendered Null And Void
This once-respectable organization has been run into the ground by the assholes in its leadership ranks.

It deserved to fade into oblivion.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:52 AM
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5. Good thing all those "pro gun democrats" are countering
this crap on gun nut forums...oh wait, they have nothing but excuses about why they can't.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 06:25 PM
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10. The NRA will flourish with or without your sarcasm, ? why?
because they have money, and unless you or anyone else has more money than the NRA, GOOD LUCK,:D
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:16 AM
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14. But If They're Shown To Be On The Losing Side Politically.....
...they will start losing that money, and their clout.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:36 AM
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17. Hey, pResident Turd has more money than Kerry...
Let's all switch sides, since obviously "money" is what "pro gun democrats" worship...

Or let's not.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 10:48 AM
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24. I agree, add in there a scandal or two and it might help.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 11:28 AM
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6. How were you planning on rendering the NRA null and void?
Fighting for more gun control is probably a counter productive way to go about it.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 03:12 PM
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7. A Democratic Landslide Would Be a Good Start
Leave the Nuts Ruining America politically impotent and show their leadership for the useless turds they are.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 03:29 PM
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8. I don't see how that would render the NRA null and void.
If fact, I don't see how that would really change anything at all. I guess you'd have to believe the NRA is working out of the oval office to think that would make a difference.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:26 PM
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 06:40 PM
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11. Oh so the NRA is working out of the oval office?
What federal gun laws has Bush repealed since he took office? Which executive orders pertaining to guns has he reversed?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:32 AM
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15. Even THEY boast about it, feeb...
Sorry Chimpy isn't gun crazy enough to suit YOU...they sure as hell are too nuts for most people.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 01:58 PM
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27. Gee, you'd think with them being in charge and all
they'd repeal some of those gun laws they're supposedly against.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 02:01 PM
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28. Sorry they're not nuts enough to suit you....
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 02:14 PM
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29. It has nothing to do with me.
You're the one claiming they're all pro-gun and working out of the oval office. What gun laws has Bush/The NRA repealed?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:12 PM
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30. Doesn't have anything to do with anybody else...
or reality, far as that goes.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:14 PM
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31. Which reality is that?
The one where the NRA is working out of the oval office and where Bush is some pro-gun dynamo or the one where Bush hasn't repealed any gun control?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:24 PM
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32. The one the rest of us live in....
You know, the one you shun.

"Back in February 2000, Kayne Robinson, the Iowa Republican Party chairman and first vice president of the National Rifle Association, boasted in a closed meeting with other NRA members that they would have an office in the White House if George W. Bush was elected president.
The remark, caught on videotape, was used in a TV commercial by the advocacy group Handgun Control. It also was dismissed by Bush as untrue.
Now, however, it appears that Robinson wasn't far off target. The NRA's office isn't in the White House; rather, it's over at the Department of Justice. The name on the door says, "John Ashcroft, Attorney General.''
Last year, Ashcroft wrote a letter to the NRA in which he endorsed the organization's view of the Second Amendment, that the right to bear arms is a broad individual right that is not tied to the maintenance of "a well- regulated militia,'' as federal courts long have interpreted it to be. This is also a strong personal view of Ashcroft's, a view he repeated in November in a memo to U.S. attorneys across the country.
Now, at Ashcroft's instruction, this view has become the official position of the U.S. government. The Justice Department advanced it in briefs filed last week by Solicitor General Theodore B. Olson in two cases that the U.S. Supreme Court is considering for review. "

http://www.dispatch.com/editorials-story.php?story=dispatch/news/editorials02/may02/1252303.html

"WASHINGTON (AP) - The National Rifle Association spent almost $1 million last month on behalf of George W. Bush's presidential campaign, an effort that is cutting into Al Gore's support in key states.
In April, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre co-chaired a Republican National Committee fund-raising dinner that featured Bush and brought in a then-record $21.5 million, including at least $250,000 from the NRA.
Gore spokesman Chris Lehane criticized the NRA's effort for Bush.
``It's the latest example of an infusion of special interest money designed to help the governor,'' Lehane said. ``His presidency will be a presidency of the special interests, for the special interests and by the special interests. The West Wing of the White House will consist of NRA lobbyists, Big Oil executives, pharmaceutical lawyers and HMO bean counters.''
One of Handgun Control's ads featured tape of a top NRA official touting the group's clout in a potential Bush White House. The tape quotes an NRA vice president, Kayne Robinson, saying this about Bush: ``If we win we'll have a president ... where we work out of their office.'' "

http://www.evote.com/News/EV10252000O.html
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:29 PM
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33. Right.
So what federal gun control have they repealed?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:42 PM
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34. Right.
Sorry that even the GOP isn't gun crazy enough to suit you.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:46 PM
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35. How gun crazy are they?
They certainly haven't repealed any federal gun laws.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:47 PM
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36. They"re far too crazy to suit me
But then I don't live in feeb's fantasyland.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:58 PM
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37. Where is the fantasy?
Bush hasn't repealed any gun control. I don't think I'm the one living in a fantasy land.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:50 AM
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Liberal Classic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 07:08 PM
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12. I object to the suggestion that I wear a sheet
Must you imply that people who argue in favor of legal weapon ownership are members of the Ku Klux Klan? Not only is this a logical fallacy and insulting to people on this board, but it is an affront to the memory of the thousands lynched at the hands of the Klan. Racists, by their very definition, do not support the right of minorities to own weapons or the right of minorities to use deadly force in self-defense.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 11:19 PM
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:35 AM
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16. I object to the entire rancid "gun rights" creed
"it is an affront to the memory of the thousands lynched at the hands of the Klan"
And that's why pretty much every civil rights organization ended up on the NRA's enemies list.

By the way, where does the Klan stand on the "gun rights" question? Oh, yeah...they're "gun rights" all the way. They're even willing to forego their ususal racist cant to spout the NRA's line.
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:39 AM
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18. The KKK is also "pro-food" and "pro-water".
I guess that means that everyone who eats or drinks water is subconsciously siding with the Klan.

Damn, I feel so deceived!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:44 AM
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21. Are they, op?
Funny, they didn't seem to feel the need to mention that...but they feel so hot for their little metal friends that they put out a statement saying so. They were even willing to neglect their ususal racist gibberish in order to parrot NRA rhetoric.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:59 AM
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:37 AM
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20. Brainless rhetoric is all that the RKBA crowd has...
"Attempts to draw a link between the Klan and gun ownership are intellectually retarded"
Funny....that's not what the Klan itself ACTUALLY says.

"Obviously, the "gun control is racist" statement is not 100% true at this time. "
As in, it's 100% horseshit. But that still doesn't keep our "pro gun democrats" from flashing it with monotonous regularity.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 10:50 AM
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25. Those lousy pro gun Dem's -- I saw one eating it's young the
Edited on Mon Jul-12-04 10:51 AM by gatlingforme
other day. <edited for spelling --- oops>
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 11:09 AM
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26. They sure don't have much to recommend them...
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mosin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:32 AM
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22. Do you really expect...
a single-issue pro-gun rights organisation to support Kerry? For all of Kerry's other great attributes, he has, for years, been one of the most reliable anti-gun rights voters in the U.S. Senate.

I am not, however, a single issue voter, so I don't always vote how the NRA "tells me" to vote.
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 10:13 AM
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23. You mean you actually think for yourself?
Some people in the Gungeon would consider that a novel concept.
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