GUN NUTS IN THE NEWS--July 15, 2004

[MrBenchley]

Looky looky looky...everybody's favorite racist shithead is being touted as the replacement for Iron Mike Ditka, who didn't feel like being the losing Senate candidate in Illinois this fall....


"But another name surfacing is that of rocker, outspoken conservative and gun-rights activist Ted Nugent.
"He grew up in Arlington Heights. He went to St. Viator High School," Cook County Republican Chair Gary Skoien told WMAQ. "He has more connection to Illinois than Hillary Clinton had to New York, and he's been a very articulate spokesperson on constitutional issues. He would be a very interesting candidate.""

http://www.turnto10.com/news/3529106/detail.html

Boy, talk about understatement.

[CO Liberal]

1. As I Said On Another DU Forum....

...Ted Nugent would make Jack Ryan look like an Eagle Scout.

[MrBenchley]

3. Yeah, but he would lock up that gun toting bigot demographic...

for the GOP....

Good thing they don't sound desperate in Illinois, or anything (snicker)....

[gatlingforme]

11. Here in Illinois the gun issue is less of importance than , hmm,

education, budget, social services, health, right now at least. Ryan is a pariah in Illinois and most people that need a "pariah" in society to crap on -- to make them feel more important, picked Ryan as the designated crapped on . Guns in Illinois is a non - issue. Ryan deserves as such though. he is a loser.

[Salmo Trutta]

2. That's it...I'm outta here...

Moving to Nova Scotia is sounding pretty good right about now.

[FeebMaster]

4. Bye. (nt)

[Endangered Specie]

5. What happened to him?

[FeebMaster]

6. I don't know.

He said he was leaving.

[Endangered Specie]

7. heh, usually those types ask to be shut off in ATA

:shrug:

[OpSomBlood]

8. Yes, guns = racism.

I thought everyone knew that.

[mbnd45]

9. How is Ted Nugen racist?

Just asking, 'cause I don't know why he's being referred to as a racist. Maybe you could tell me.

[CO Liberal]

10. He Was Interviewed on a Denver Radio Station

And made several racially-charged comments. As a result, a concert of his in the Denver Area was cancelled.

Ted Nugent - racist, child molestor, gun owner.

[Jack_DeLeon]

13. Link, Please

To quote you from the Black Panthers thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x71357#71387
Sorry, but without sources there's no way of knowing if you made that stuff up or not.

[CO Liberal]

16. OK...

In the interest of fairness (and to remain consistent), I just did a Google search to show that I didn't make this up. But it's old news to must people here at DU.

(BTW, I had the details a little wrong. The interview DID take place on a Denver radio station, but the concert cancellation tool place in Michigan.)

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TED NUGENT Sues Town Over Canceled Concert … Again - June 19, 2004

Bill Iddings of The Muskegon Chronicle reports: After federal lawsuit against the Muskegon Summer Celebration music festival was dismissed, has filed another suit in the state court.

His new lawsuit in 12th Circuit Court in Jackson contends the same thing as his federal complaint: that Nugent's reputation and career suffered when Summer Celebration canceled his June 30, 2003, concert at Heritage Landing. It also alleges breach of contract.

Summer Celebration dropped Nugent from its lineup after newspaper reports of a radio interview Nugent had with two Denver disc jockeys. During the interview, Nugent reportedly used racial slurs to refer to African-Americans and Asians.

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http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=23837

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Organizers for Michigan's Muskegon Summer Celebration have cancelled Ted Nugent's gig there after the conservative rocker made derogatory racial remarks against Asians and blacks in an interview with Denver deejays Lewis & Floorwax last week.

http://www.entertainyourbrain.com/musicnews5190352503.htm

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And finally, here's an update on the story from a gun-rights blog:

I found another article concerning precisely what Nugent said here (though how long the link will be valid I don't know.) Here's the pertinent part:

The Nuge, never one for his subtlety when it comes to politically incorrect views, recently made some disparaging remarks about Asians while on Denver morning show program Lewis and Floorwax.

Reportedly he began to talk about guitars, complaining that they used to be made by "Japs". It gets worse.

Kathy Lee, Lewis and Floorwax's producer, is Korean-American. Instead of an apology to Lee, Nugent said "Maybe she'd prefer the term gook?" and asked her to "Go get me some sweet and sour," according to host Rick Lewis.

Nugent has said that his words were not harmful as his intentions were only in jest. He then went on to compare his statements to those of other minority artist such as N.W.A. and Richard Pryor - then bandied about a derogatory word about African-Americans.

Ahem. Let me repeat Bill Whittle's words:

How much better, how much stronger and healthier are we, when we dare anyone to use whatever terms they chose, and rather than sitting as powerless victims, rise in angry and righteous indignation to fight the human filth that use words like nigger, spick, gook, mick, kike, dago, and all the rest?

Nuge? You're an idiot.

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http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2003_08_17_smallestminority_archive.html

[MrBenchley]

14. Gee, if only there was some sort of search engine

where somebody who was truly interested (and not trrying to spin away the ugly truth about this right wing fuckwit and Director of the National Rifle Association) could put in the terms "Ted Nugent" and "racist" and find stuff like this at a moment's notice:

"DENVER (AP) - Two Denver disc jockeys stopped a live radio
interview with rocker Ted Nugent after he used derogatory racial
terms for Asians and blacks.
Rick Lewis and Michael Floorwax, morning talk show hosts on
KRFX-FM, said that during an interview Monday, Nugent said one of the members of a group called the Funk Brothers years ago
complimented his guitar playing by using a racist term for blacks.
``We've known Ted a long time and he's been on the show many
times. So when he went down that road, we stopped him and gave him a chance to bail himself out, but he didn't take it,'' Floorwax said.
Nugent also used derogatory racial terms for Asians on the air."

http://my.netscape.com/corewidgets/news/story.psp?table=n&cat=50803&id=200305061510000151597

"To put his love of the social healing in some context, here are a few random Nugent thoughts about race relations, immigration status, religious freedom and other fine progressive causes he feels strongly about:

"My being there (South Africa) isn't going to affect any political structure. Besides, apartheid isn't that cut-and-dry. All men are not created equal." - Detroit Free Press Magazine , July 15, 1990
(About Haiti) "We should put razor wire around our borders and give the finger to any piece of shit who wants to come here." - Westword Newspaper , Denver, Colorado, July 27, 1994
" conversations are peppered with the word nigger. He refers to his upcoming tour of Japan the Jap Whack Tour." - Detroit Free Press Magazine , July 15, 1990
"...Yeah, we want to go to Saudi Arabia, man, and see if we can't get a four iron and knock people's laundry off the top of their heads. Wear laundry on your head and die, is the basic theme of the Damn Yankees ... (The Damn Yankees was Ted's band in the '90s)" - WRIF-FM, Detroit, Ted Nugent as guest D.J., September 25, 1990
"... And in my mind, I'm going why can't I just shoot this guy in the spine right now; shoot him in the spine, explain the facts of life to him... " - WRIF-FM, Detroit, Ted Nugent as guest D.J., September 28, 1990"

http://www.livejournal.com/users/jmhm/450690.html

Of course, if someone has spent most of his time with gun owners at gun owner forums, he could be excused for not knowing any of this....there's nary a murmur of discontent to be seen that a racist piece of shit (and several others just as bad) heads up the largest gun owner's group...or that an even uglier specimen heads up the second largest gun owner's group.

Goes to show what that claim that there are MILLIONS (or even a largeish handful) of pro-gun liberals out there is worth...

[Scout]

12. but wait! he's supposed to run for governor of Michigan!

Ted said during Jennifer Granholm's campaign, that if she won, he would run for governor against her next time.

[MrBenchley]

15. Evidently he's not running, and neither is this specimen....

"A potential Republican candidate for the Senate seat from Illinois -- where the party's nominee withdrew over sex club allegations -- engaged in "lewd and abusive behavior" while she served as a top official in the White House drug policy office, an internal inquiry found last year.
In front of her staff, Andrea Grubb Barthwell made repeated comments about the sexual orientation of a staff member and used a kaleidoscope to make sexually offensive gestures, according to the findings of a March 19, 2003, "hostile workplace memorandum" prepared by drug policy office staff. The Associated Press obtained the memorandum.
Former Chicago Bears coach Mike Ditka, who considered running for the seat as a Republican, decided not to enter the race, GOP officials said Wednesday night. Dairy owner James Oberweis, who finished second behind Ryan in the primary, has been mentioned as a possible replacement candidate. "

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-illinois-senate-harassment,0,1180182,print.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

Look! It's the party of family values!

Wonder what's rattling around Oberweis' attic that they'd be desperately avoiding him while casting around the freakshow for a candidate...

[CO Liberal]

17. If He Does Run for Governor of Michigan.....

...it's a safe bet that he won't get many votes in Muskegon, where he was dropped from a concert bill after making his racist remarks on a Denver radio station.

IMHO, Ted Nugent is a useless asshole, a racist, a child molester, and a lackliuster guitar player. Anyone who looks up to this bastard may need to seek professional help.

[MrBenchley]

18. Amazing how this keeps being news to "pro gun democrats"

and old news to everybody else....

[CO Liberal]

19. It's Because They Can't Handle The Truth.....

...so they keep denying it.

[MrBenchley]

20. You'll notice there's never any condemnation of these racist fuckwits

just grousing that anybody was so impolite as to mention out loud what sort of specimens are peddling this "gun rights" crap and heading up the gun owners' groups...

[Scout]

21. I'd be embarrassed to say I was from Michigan...

if Ted Nugent got any votes at all! I would hope he wouldn't even get to the point of actually getting on the ballot. Although, watching Gov Granholm wipe the stage with his sorry ass in a debate would be kind of fun!

[CO Liberal]

22. I'm Not a Violent Man....

...but I would love to see someone - anyone - kick the everlovin' snot out of that bastard.