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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:51 PM
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Poll question: Will Gun owners vote for Kerry?
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 09:53 PM by lunabush
Seems to have been a hot topic of late. Will, indeed, Kerry have enough to offer the RKBA crowd?

edit for typo
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:58 PM
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1. There should be an option between #2 and #3....
"Yes because he's not George W. Bush."

That's essentially why I'm voting for Kerry.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 09:59 PM
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2. New polling in battleground states show even gunowning nascar dads for AWB
It's at Gun Guys in PDF form.
<http://www.gunguys.com/>
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:11 PM
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4. A majority of gun owners support gun control
and the hard core gun crazies are one of the dwindling pockets of support the GOP has....

http://www.alternet.org/election04/19223/
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:20 PM
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7. That's because they're DUMBASSES!
:evilgrin:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Wow, so gun owners are dumbasses...
Or is it just the ones who are parents who are dumbasses?
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enfield collector Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:54 AM
Response to Reply #2
10. that's an anti-RKBA site. did you actually visit it? n/t
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:07 PM
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3. What are you asking?
Are you asking how gun owners as a whole will more likely vote? (As the title implies)

Or how each individual gun owner on this forum will vote? (As the poll questions imply)
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:14 PM
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6. The poll questions will provide
an untidy and statistically unsatisfactory answer to the title query. Sorry that was complicated.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 09:00 AM
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24. Okey dokey
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:13 PM
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5. No one who is voting for Kerry is going to be casting that
vote because he is pro-gun. He will, of course, get a number of votes from gun owners.

I'd say no gun owner is going to vote for him based on his stance on guns, but I've met some gun owners who are real weirdos when it comes to supporting gun control.
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 11:16 PM
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9. A vote for Kerry...
He isn't Bush.
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 09:27 AM
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11. I'm voting for Edwards for Vice President. Kerry will get into...
...office on Edwards' coattails. :)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 10:53 AM
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12. Jinkies, the enthusiasm just LEAPS off the page, don't it?
Guess some people truly can't see beyond their little toys....or would rather pout and pretend there's some threat to those toys rather than act for the good of the country.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 05:08 PM
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14. And the excitement keeps building!!
(snicker)
Well, now I'm convinced that there are plenty of liberals who own guns...in a pig's eye.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. Yes the poll results certainly show gun owners
voting against Kerry in surprising numbers. :eyes:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 06:51 AM
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16. Stand back! It's a stampede!
Impressive the way them rootin' tootin' gun-totin' liberals are speaking right up, isn't it?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 11:53 AM
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17. Yup....sure shows
that our "pro gun democrats" are really concerned about vital issues and not just gripped by a puerile fixation....
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. What's especially impressive
is the way our "pro gun democrats" pay attention to really imporetant issues, like environmental protection.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. Yup. No one is voting for Kerry.
The poll results show it plain as day.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. And of course there's the war
and Chimpy's foreign policy based on lies, bullying and spite....
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #20
23. Jobs and the economy...
the importance of reversing the tilt to the ultra-wealthy...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #23
25. Rolling back the threat to womens' reproductive health
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. Kerry will appoint honest representative judges instead of
far right wing extremist fuckwits dredged up by crooked Ed Meese...(Oh wait, the RKBA crowd will never get the verdicts they want then)....
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. Programs to end US dependence on foreign oil...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-04 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. Gay rights...not open bigotry
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #28
29. Using actual science, not faithhealing and corruption,
to determine questions of science...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. Affordable, high-quality health care
instad of outright looting by HMO's...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. A commitment to improved public schools
with adequate funding
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #31
39. Restoring funding to the COPS program
to make neighborhoods safer...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #39
43. "Service For College"
Allowing 200,000 to get the advanced education they need to get ahead...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. Improve And Expand Rural Health Care
Of course, that isn't as important to some as pretending there's a threat to their popgun is....
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. Fully funded veterans' benefits
such as health care...
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #45
46. This is the most hilarious thread ever.
I give it two thumbs up.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #45
47. New technologies and alternative fuels
not wars for oil
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #47
48. Incentives to create jobs at home
instead of encouraging outsourcing...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. Affordable prescriptions
and an overhaul of the ridiculous Medicare drug plan....
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #49
71. Unlike the Chimp, Kerry's not a cowardly drunk
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #71
74. A real leader instead of pretzel boy....
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #74
75. Hope and opportunity instead of terror and hate...
Hey, how can they sell guns unless Americans hate and fear each other?
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #14
22. What the F do you want?
People, like myself, have overwhelmingly said that they will vote for Kerry.
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skippythwndrdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #14
55. Yup. All 80,000,000 gun owners in the U.S. are Repugs
And I've got a nice waterfront lot 10 miles east of the Science center in Newark to sell ya.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #55
73. Gee, skippy....
I doubt there's naught but the lunatic fringe who are creaming their jeans for assault weapons and really believe the crap our "pro gun democrats" spout here daily.....
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Romulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:14 AM
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13. voted # 2
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 12:08 PM by Romulus
I wanted Edwards as the main feature, not the opening act . . .
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 08:04 PM
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21. I voted #2. Kerry has a balanced approach to guns.
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:10 PM
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32. I'm curious...
...who would be the other, other than Nader?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. I'm wondering which four idiots are voting for Chimpy
Wonder if there'd be a prize for guessing which ones?
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. Probably some whiny gun grabbers
who think all gun owners are right wing nutjobs and were upset with the way the poll was going.
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MrSandman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #34
35. Dang Freepers...
Trying to convince us there are gun owning Democrats who will vote for Kerry.

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MTG250 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #35
36. Right here
I am one gun owning democrat that will vote for Kerry. Because as I see it, I know more people that have had to have an abortion than have had to use their gun. So at this point, Kerry gets my vote.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:09 AM
Response to Reply #35
38. Yeah, the enthusiasm just jumps off the page...hahahahaha
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:08 AM
Response to Reply #34
37. Gee, feeb, the poll is for GUN OWNERS
But it's hilarious tro see you try to spin this crap away....
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #37
40. It sure is
and I figure when five whiny gun grabbers saw the way the poll was going, they voted for "No, I will vote for Bush" because seeing all those people voting for Kerry was making them uncomfortable.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. Hahahahahahaha...Yeah, the enthusiasm was breathtaking
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goju Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 12:23 PM
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42. Nader, if he had a chance
Im not talking guns now, just getting out of Iraq. I dont think there is much difference between bush and Kerry on gun control. I doubt Kerry would do anything to upset staunch gun supporters.

If Nader had a chance to win, he would have my vote. Why are we in iraq again?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:32 PM
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50. So a third of our "pro gun democrats"
Edited on Mon Jul-26-04 08:32 PM by MrBenchley
admit they are not voting for Kerry...and SIX of them are actually planning to vote for the AWOL drunk.

Telling, isn't it?
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #50
51. Gee, shouldn't Democrats be capitalized?
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #50
52. Also "pro gun democrats" would really look better
as pro-gun "Democrats." It's less ambiguous. That is to say it actually makes sense.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 08:37 AM
Response to Reply #52
70. Actual Democrats would be better still
but instead we've got "pro gun democrats"
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #70
72. Yes that's my point exactly.
Which is why pro-gun "Democrats" looks better. "pro gun democrats" is ambiguous at best. Are you saying these "pro gun democrats" aren't pro-gun?

Also, you should capitalize Democrat. Someone might get offended.
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 10:47 PM
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53. I support the ban 100%
And I am a gun owner (Sig p230, Remington golden sabers, for you gun owners)
I see no reason why anyone would need these guns (assault weapons)
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #53
54. I see no reason why anyone needs
a handgun like a Sig p230. Please turn yours in to the nearest police department since you have no need for it.
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #54
58. Seeing as how you don't know me
or anything about me or what I do for a living, you really don't know that do you. So you arbitrarily just think everyone should give up their guns?
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:05 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. Why would anyone need a handgun?
"So you arbitrarily just think everyone should give up their guns?"

Do you?
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #59
62. Personal protection
pure and simple.
It's not a toy, I don't show it to people, I don't play with it, I don't let others play with it, I don't brag about having it to others. Maybe I don't "need" it all the time, but I feel better having it if I were to need it.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #62
63. Nope.
I still see no reason a person would need those guns. (handguns)
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #63
64. That's your opinion
and I respect that. I wish the world was a place that I could share your feelings. I don't get a high owning it, just feel that it is necessary right now.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:46 PM
Response to Reply #64
66. Do you not see the parallel between what I am saying
about handguns and what you said about assault weapons?
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #66
68. Uh, no
Why, are you expecting an invasion? Besides those things are real hard to modify to make them usable for concealed carry. I just don't see a use for them.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:10 AM
Response to Reply #68
69. and plenty of people don't see a use for a handgun. (nt)
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skippythwndrdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #53
56. If you are indeed referring to the AWB, read it first
You'll be able to make a more intelligent post about whether or not you support it.

As it currently reads, it's akin to banning tail fins on cars.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #56
57. Speaking of which
no one needs tail fins on cars. I think we should ban them.
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skippythwndrdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #57
60. Hmm. Banning fins.
Dangferously close to that evil Jarts reference, Feeb.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #60
61. What are you one of those jart grabbers?
If only you jart grabbers would read the text of the Jart Ban you'd see it's just a feel good regulation.
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skippythwndrdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:39 PM
Response to Reply #61
65. I'm not a jart grabber
I could put my eye out with one of those things.

See! They're dangerous!
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:46 PM
Response to Reply #65
67. That's exactly what a jart grabber would say. (nt)
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 10:18 PM
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76. Locking
thanks for your input.
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