Do any of you gungeonites ever have this fantasy?

[Sandpiper]

You're all alone, the night is dark, when all of the sudden some crazed criminal jumps out of nowhere to attack you.

But you... you're prepared. You know that carrying a concealed handgun keeps you safe, and you proceed to pull yours out and smoke his ass.

[Retired AF Dem]

1. Does this question serve a purpose?

[NMDemDist2]

2. thoughts have power

be careful where you put yours

[JayS]

3. That sounds more like a nightmare, actually. My house is...

...secure enough that even with a key you cannot get in unnoticed, even if you shut the power off at the breaker, cut the phone line, and all that jazz.

I know that I would fire if I had to, but there would be no joy in it. It would bother me for the rest of my life that I could not prevent the situation from getting to the point where I had to shoot.

[slackmaster]

4. No

I feel the same way about guns as I do about fire extinguishers. If you have a realistic view of what it would be like to "smoke someone's ass" it's about the last thing you'd want to have to do.

[Warpy]

5. Firing a warning shot would be a better idea in that case.

However, the only time it ever happened, I waved my arms and screamed at the top of my lungs and the bear took off.

I take no delight in fantasizing about the death of anyone or anything. I do occasionally fantasize about slapping some of them so hard they'd be picking their teeth out of their rectums, though.

[Fescue4u]

9. firing is warning shot is a bad idea btw

The bullet is much safer lodged in the bad guys body than richeting around.

Also, a zealous prosecuter will use the fact that you had time to fire a warning shot proved you were not in imminent danger.

[Syncronaut Seven]

6. Ya suffer from PTSS perhaps?

or just watch to much violence on TV?

[Wcross]

7. Ever have a fantasy....

That you suddenly could rid the world of firearms and it actually made criminals behave? Just curious.

[Fescue4u]

8. I have had that nightmare

But the gun didnt work. Just clicked like in the movies.

I woke up scared, almost as if I lived in Britain or some other local that didnt respect my civil rights.

[Columbia]

10. Do you ever have the fantasy...

That one day people will quit stereotyping gun owners as anything but everyday people?

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[Sandpiper]

14. They're just ashamed to admit it, Bench

n/t

[MrBenchley]

16. I think you've got it...

You'll notice that one out of three admits they're not voting for Kerry...and a half dozen of these "enthusiasts" are actually saying they're going to vote for the AWOL drunk....

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[MrBenchley]

13. Your loss...

and the downside for me is non-existent....

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[CO Liberal]

35. Did YOU Ever Have The Fantasy.....

...that one day pro-gunners will stop spreading lies about those who favor reasonable gun control measures, branding them all "gun-grabbers"???

:shrug:

[MrBenchley]

36. I used to have the fantasy

that there'd be "pro gun democrats" actually saying something pro-Democrat and not peddling worthless right wing rubbish...but one must outgrow fantasy....

[enfield collector]

15. you've got to be shitting me.

No I don't share your "fantasy". why do grabbers have such a hard on for so-called assualt weapons when its handgun that do all the killing?

[MrSandman]

17. No

[RoeBear]

18. Woo-Hoo! Yeah baby!

Bring it on! I'd go out of my way to have some low life criminal scum try and take something that belongs to me. I'd be his living nightmare, he'd wish he'd never been born after I'm done with him.
Boy would that make my day, then I'd be a real man.

(did I cover all the bases for you?)

[slackmaster]

19. You forgot something about making your penis larger

Although the "real man" remark hinted at it, I'm sure.

:dunce:

[RoeBear]

21. You want a piece of me?

Well do ya punk? :P

I gotta go watch my copy of 'Deathwish' now.

[Wcross]

27. Thats why I always carry my 357 in a crotch holster.

It impresses the ladies.

[FeebMaster]

20. Doesn't everybody?

I only wish I had a gun so I could one day live out my fantasy.


Actually, my real fantasy is that one day all the gun grabbers will read the current federal firearms laws and at least make an attempt to understand them so then we won't have constant whining about the AWB banning machine guns or banning the SKS or whatever. I know, I know. Completely unrealistic. That's why it's a fantasy. I think I'm more likely to be attacked by some crazed criminal jumping out of nowhere.

[Endangered Specie]

41. ...

As someone who could be described as a gun grabber...

I have read AWB, and I know it doesnt do much for our cause. (although, I find the uprising of disgust of it from the pro gun crowd intersting, these people fight like it was the most important thing on earth, does having your AR-15 decked out to look beautiful really matter that much?).

Just be lucky I wasnt writing the AWB.

[FeebMaster]

44. Yes, and you are a breath of fresh air

even if we completely disagree on the gun issue.

The reason the pro-gun side act like the AWB is the most important thing on earth is because it is going to sunset in a few more weeks. If there were a chance that the Hughes Amendment of the Firearm Owners' Protection Act were going to be repealed or that one of the various import bans was going to be lifted the pro-gun side would be excited by those, but that simply isn't going to happen any time in the near future.

[Endangered Specie]

46. what really ticks me off is how Repos are going to use the AWB

against all of us, (both pro-gun and pro-regulation) Democrats.

[FeebMaster]

47. It's a problem that's easily avoided. (nt)

[Endangered Specie]

49. No, Dems can't drop the AWB, it will make them look

pro-gun and hurt a good part of the base, appearance more important than actuality

[FeebMaster]

50. I question how much of the base would be lost

by taking on a truly pro-gun stance. At most you'll lose the really hardcore gun grabbers and, quite frankly, they should be voting for the party that's most likely to give them the gun control they want anyway.


I made a poll on this very subject a while back and someone else made a similar one after:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=541677
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=542884

[skippythwndrdog]

22. Never a fantasy here

My fantasies usually involve my wife - and occasionally a select few attractive redheads.

[Township75]

23. It may not be fantasy someday, a Million Mom March leader...

could try and kill you someday.

Some of them have tried to kill others in the past.

[skippythwndrdog]

25. But b-b-b-b-but

surely an MMM'er wouldn't stoop to violence.

<sarcasm off>

[FatSlob]

28. Sounds awful.

Getting in a shoot is definitely the worst possible scenario.

I'm surprised that such a dumb question was asked.

[necso]

29. That is a pretty weak fantasy.

How about this one.

A radical group takes control of the federal government by means of open fraud. They attack fundamental liberties, treat citizens without concern for the law, suppress dissent, remove workplace and environmental protections, bankrupt the treasury, fill the media with coarse propaganda, breed fear, launch a unnecessary war, turn virtually the entire world against a respected nation and generally do the previously unimaginable.

Now, how is that for a fantasy... No, wait!

What was your point again? --- That is puerile to be armed?

I would say that is naive and dangerous not to be... But then again you are entitled to your own fantasies.

[Sandpiper]

31. You forgot to mention in your hypothetical

That gun owners, who fancy themselves to be protectors of liberty against government tyranny, do not oppose this radical group, but rather, quite the opposite. The majority of them count themselves among the biggest supporters of the radical group that seized control of the federal government.

[MrBenchley]

32. In fact....

one of the loudest voices in the rotten "gun rights" chorus is the radical racist idiot that was named attorney general...

Let the eagle soar-r-r-r-r

[necso]

34. I am all too aware

that many people apparently think that the second amendment supersedes other rights... But I also aware that many people think that keeping honest citizens from owning guns is some sort of panacea for solving gun violence.

I am as disappointed that the pugs play so successfully to some gun owners' narrow minded thinking as I am that some dems seem determined to drive gun owners away from a place in the party -- or put them at such a disadvantage to those who do not follow the law.

And while I am horrified at the number of gun deaths in the US, particularly those of innocents, it is the violence itself that is to be abhorred. If there is some greater risk of innocent death entailed in gun ownership by law abiding citizens, then I for one am willing to bear my share of that risk. (I have nearly been shot on a number of occasions by idiots target shooting or hunting, but I do not seek to diminish this very real risk by limiting either of these activities, except, of course, where hunting threatens species survival. Mind you, I don't hunt, but I can understand that some will do so.)

We can fantasize about this or that, but one thing is certain: that you must own guns before you can use them -- in any circumstances. Many are those who wish for guns after violence strikes them... better that they should have planned a little more in advance.

[leanings]

30. Yep.

"Creating smoking holes gives our lives meaning
and enhances our manliness." LTC (EUCOM) at a CT conference

http://www.strategypage.com/humor/articles/military_jokes_200471823.asp

That about sums it up for me.

[Liberal Classic]

33. Flamebait? I'll bite anyway.

I'll have you know your "fantasy" was our nightmare this past Thanksgiving. I'm not going to discuss it further except to ask, have you ever been in a home invasion? Have you ever been the victim of violent crime? Someone who has will generally have more empathy than to just ask "why do you want to smoke someone."

[EconGeek]

37. No. But your assumption tells us much about you. /eom

[Endangered Specie]

38. An even better fantasy...

You're all alone, the night is dark, when all of the sudden some crazed criminal jumps out of nowhere to attack you.

But you... you're prepared. You know that carrying a concealed handgun keeps you safe, and you proceed to pull yours out... unfortunately, he takes it from you and smokes your ass with it


or even better...


You're all alone, the night is dark, when all of the sudden some crazed criminal jumps out of nowhere to attack you.

But you... you're prepared. You know that carrying a concealed handgun keeps you safe, and you proceed to pull yours out and smoke his ass.

Unfortunately, it turned out to be your son who thought it be funny to scare daddy in the middle of the night.

Guess that'll teach him.

[goju]

39. Thats kinda sick

[Endangered Specie]

40. I know.

Its come to my attention that people here actually do relish the thought of getting the chance to blow away a home invader. To flash their "manliness" in the form of, "oh look, Im armed to the teeth, anyone wanna try and touch me, ill fill ya full of lead" yet they seem to lack any mature understanding of what shooting someone means, especially shooting the wrong person, which IS a risk in pretty much any situation.

[goju]

42. Why encourage it?

Deranged people may delight in killing but why encourage it?

[Endangered Specie]

43. Im not encouraging it...

Its meant to be sarcasm/satire/serious commentary mixed into one. Yes its a bit morbid, but thats my style, it gets the point across, and youre more likely remember it in that form.

[FeebMaster]

45. How do you take a gun away from someone?

Sounds like a good way to get shot.

[Endangered Specie]

48. A small, but significant percentage of homicide victims by gun,

are shot by their OWN gun, this happens in law enforcement too. It happens.

[Bowline]

51. "...smoke his ass"? Somebody's been watching too many cop shows.

Besides, smoking an ass must be difficult. How do you keep a donkey lit long enough to get a good drag off of him?