Carolyn McCarthy spoke up for the AWB at the convention

[Renew Deal]

Just now. Talking about Bush promising to sign legislation to extend the AWB. She "knows" Kerry will fight for it.

[MrBenchley]

1. Good for her...

She is a rising star and an eloquent liberal voice....

[Romulus]

2. seems like a "burial" to me

if we were really pushing this so-called "AWB," and it was such a pressing issue, why wasn't she given a prime time speech slot, instead of the 4 o'clock slump? :shrug:?

[MrBenchley]

3. Tell us, rom, when's the pro-assault weapons speech?

Oh, that's right...nobody but folks like the Aryan Nations are pimping for assault weapons in public....

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[Wickerman]

5. Glad to see you come around

:hi:

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6. Heart wrenching...

wasn't it?

Sorry for your loss, Carolyn, but your hand wringing and sob story doesn't justify your game plan.

[OpSomBlood]

7. It's akin to victims of drunk drivers trying to get cars banned.

Same basic concept.

[Wcross]

8. Its worse....

Its like those people only trying to get the cars with lots of chrome banned. While the chrome does nothing for the performance of the car, it looks scary.

[MrBenchley]

11. Gee, cross...

if that were true, don't our pro-gun democrats look stupid for fighting so hard for scary looking guns....

But the gun lobby itself showed what a pantload THAT line was....

[FeebMaster]

12. That's sad.

You didn't even bother using quotes this time.

[MrBenchley]

13. No feeb...

what's sad is what a fucking disgrace in every way these trigger happy "enthusiasts" down here pimping for assault weapons are....

[FeebMaster]

14. Are you trying to imply that they aren't enthusiasts? (nt)

[goju]

20. Its surprising that you dont see the slippery slope

I think that is what most honest gun owners fear. Its really not whether or not they can get a larger magazine or folding stock, they can already do that. The issue is whether or not we will allow the continued degradation of our rights.

You continually put out the straw man that we only oppose the AWB because the proscribed accessories make the weapons more capable. The real issue is whether we will stand by and allow the incremental taking of our rights.

[Wcross]

28. The slope keeps getting steeper too!

It seems to me that these anti-gun folks are really poor shots, they can never focus in on the 10 ring. The vast majority of gun homicides are committed by criminals mis-using a pistol. Every state has law on the books covering the illegal carrying of weapons. Why don't they push for stiffer penalties? Is that too simple? It isn't rocket science. I hear talk in the party for States rights regarding Gay marriage, why not gun laws? No, they believe that banning a whole class of firearm from everybody is better than severe punishment for the few that mis-use them.
Slippery slope? "Assault weapons" first, then "sniper rifles" then Saturday night specials" moving on to the bullet hose A.K.A. the shotguns........
Group punishment doesn't work too well on citizens, it tends to piss them off. Its just a damn shame that these leeches have decided to feed off the Democratic party in my ever so humble opinion.

[MrBenchley]

29. And the rhetoric keeps getting sillier....

"I hear talk in the party for States rights regarding Gay marriage, why not gun laws?"
Perhaps because none but the lunatic fringe think assault weapons on the market is a good idea, cross?

[MrBenchley]

10. Yeah, op? Where are they?

[CO Liberal]

19. Ah, Yes - More Apples & Oranges From the Pro-Gun Side

When they run out of arguments, they haul out the fruit......

[MrBenchley]

22. Every argument on the RKBA side

is at bottom dishonest...

[MrBenchley]

9. Sure it does....

What's more, there's no way to justify letting assault weapons on the market...other than outright lies. As we see here daily.

[JayS]

21. In all seriousness, it would be helpful if whatever you, or others,...

...feel is a lie to point it out, along with a statement as to what is allegedly the untruth, as well as something to back up this assertion. Note that steaming poopy pants is not considered a valid response beyond the kindergarten playground.

[MrBenchley]

23. In all seriousness....

stick around...I been doing it for months now, and I plan to keep on doing it.

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[MrBenchley]

25. No offense, but....

most of this crap is just the same shit, different day....

By the way, it's wonderful to see how that theory that was spawned on a right wing loony board keeps popping up over here....you'd almost think some of our "pro gun democrats" were trolling over from somewhere else on a regular basis....

And it's always heartwarming to see how sincerely the RKBA crowd frets that I'm not making a convincing case.....ludicrous and hilarity-evoking, but touching nonetheless....

[JayS]

26. If you find this forum so dull, why do you post here?

[MrBenchley]

27. It's more fun than the zoo, with weirder specimens

[iverglas]

31. yeah ... hmm ...

Where *have* I read that theory before?? I knew it sounded familiar ...

[MrBenchley]

33. And yet I soldier on....

...unable to shake myself free of this nagging dread that this constant farrago of hysteria, stupidity and outright dishonesty on the part of the RKBAers is doing serious harm to the noble and uplifting cause of pooping in the park, er, GUNS GUNS GUNS....

And I mean that sincerely.

Honest.

[iverglas]

34. soldering! soldering!

Soldering is dun with guns! And it uses resources! And it's dangerous! And children could get hurt! And there's lead in there somewhere, isn't there? Why would anybody want to solder on? There's enough soldering in the world already, nobody needs to do any more of it.

Eh? What's that? You were talking about the militia?

Well, that's different ... never mind.

[MrBenchley]

35. LOL!

[Bowline]

15. No politician up for election is gonna touch this issue.

Neither side of the aisle will even talk about this until after the election.

[MrBenchley]

16. It's a win-win issue for Democrats...

and shows what sort of extremist loonies the GOP caters to...and how dishonest any appeal by them to the center really is.

[Bowline]

17. The Democrats are getting smarter.

They pretend it's a non-issue until AFTER they are elected. Only then will they attempt any reform.

[MrBenchley]

18. And the gun lobby is getting desperate

[Bowline]

30. The irony about Carolyn McCarthy is...

She claims she is pushing to ban assault weapons because of a tragic shooting that took the life of her husband and wounded her son. While certainly tragic it should be noted that the lunatic who did this used not an assault weapon but rather a 9mm pistol obtained in California, a state not known for it's lax gun laws.

What Ms. McCarthy SHOULD be pushing for is strict, enforcible, life sentences for those who commit crimes with guns. Just my opinion of course.

[iverglas]

32. but of course!

What Ms. McCarthy SHOULD be pushing for is strict, enforcible, life sentences for those who commit crimes with guns. Just my opinion of course.

And the instant that these laws pass, there will be her husband in the shower when she wakes up, just like on Dallas. It will all have been a dream!