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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:45 PM
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Kerry is a gun owner
Kerry. Kerry has said multiple times he supports the 2nd ammendment rights of Americans. American like himself who own guns for sporting purposes.

Q: What does this mean to Pro Gunners?
A: It means that he backs you up, agrees with you. You should vote for him. He's on our side here folks.

Q:What does this mean to the radical anti-gunners who believe that gun owners are racist?

A: If you truly believe that, then you believe Kerry to be a racist gun owner. In light of that, you should proably support a different candidate that closer believes as you do.


Im adult enough and mature enough to realize that not everyone will agree with Kerrys position on personal gun ownership. Personally I do and he has my vote in November.

However I do encourage those who believe gun owners to be racist, to look for a better candidate. Frankly your numbers have to be small enough, that no will notice if you support another candidate, and I would not want you to compromise your personal beliefs to support a "racist".

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:48 PM
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1. There's no pro gun control person here who does not support Kerry
Edited on Thu Jul-29-04 08:51 PM by MrBenchley
enthusiastically. Far more enthusiastically than the bullets for brains bunch here, as it happens.

Why don't you go over to one of the forums like highroadrage and tell THEM that?

"Q:What does this mean to the radical anti-gunners who believe that gun owners are racist?"
It means that everybody who's not trigger happy can see our pro gun democrats still need to distort what other people say to even pretend they have a point.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:50 PM
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2. Thats not very nice
His opinion in this forum is just as valid as yours.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:57 PM
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4. Gee, you think lying about what other people say IS nice?
No one here has ever said all gun owners are racist except for dishonest RKBAers. On the other hand what has been pointed out often is that every racist shithead that can be found today is spewing this bogus "gun rights" crap at the top of his rancid lungs.

His opinion in this forum addressed to gun control advocates is coals to Newcastle...since so far WE all support Kerry much more enthusiastic than the trigger-happy amongst us...a third of whom ADMITTED they won't vote for the former prosecutor, Silver Star winner and distinguished and respected Senator who heads our ticket..

On the other hand, if someone's looking for gun owners to reach with a pro-Kerry message, cesspools like highroadrage are crawling with ignorant dittomnokeys. Funny that we never get anything but excuses about why a proDemocrat world can not be said THERE by our rootin' tootin' gun-totin' liberals....
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:59 PM
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6. Man it's a good thing you don't own a gun with all that rage!
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:02 PM
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10. Gee, that IS funny...
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:05 PM
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14. You said it!
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:40 AM
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17. You don't hang around the JPS forum enough
to see the way MrBenchley and others of us are constantly and casually vilified for supporting gun control. I wish MrBenchley would be nicer too, but his attitude does have a context.
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:42 AM
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18. I don't know about that.
IT is his typical mode of operation.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:43 AM
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19. Gee, fat slob, it's not undeserved, either.....
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:46 AM
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21. Like I said . . .
Action, reaction.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. Never bring a knife to a gunfight (snicker)
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:13 PM
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23. My words to you.
My point is that your mode of communication turns most people off. Obviously you want people to pay attention to you, otherwise you wouldn't be posting on this board. The problem is that the attention you receive is both negative and dwindling. If you toned down the rhetoric, maybe people would start to care about what you say. As it is now, only the newbies really pay any attention, the veterans of this forum may casually scan your postings. Then they come across "shitheel", "humhole", or some other juvenile garbage and immediately discount everything you have to say, if they have bothered to even read you at all. Frankly, I am astonished at the rhetoric you employ. Maybe that is standard fare in New Jersey, but where I come from, you'd be ostracized from the community. If you want people to take you seriously (and I have my doubts about that), you should start writing in a reasoned manner. As it stands now, you do more to advance gun rights than anybody on this board.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:19 PM
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24. My words to you....
Who was it posted crap about "blacks, Jews and women" being "professional victims" claiming it was worth "serious discussion" because it had "merit"? That was you.

Who was it started a thread to cheerlead for the far right wing loonies in the Second Amendment Caucus? That was you.

"Frankly, I am astonished at the rhetoric you employ."
Get over it.

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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:22 PM
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26. I guess I didn't expect any better from you.
Too bad, I thought that maybe you might be polite, for once. Bye bye.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 01:18 PM
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28. I knew just what to expect from you, fat slob...
and I'm not surprised you want to run away from the actual CONTENT of your posts.....
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John BigBootay Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 01:58 PM
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30. Who are all you people talking to??? n/t
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 02:40 PM
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32. They sure aren't fooling much of anybody....
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. Me?
The same person you're not talking to. Don't worry about me though, I'm not going to talk either.
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:20 PM
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25. You can stop showing off - I think freetobegay is gone now.
And the rest of us know how little your usual level of discourse differs from MrBenchley's.
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. Sure...we believe you.
Of course it differs greatly. You know that.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. For one thing...
I don't post right wing horseshit. For another , I stand behind what I say without running to hide.
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:59 PM
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7. Thats right.. NOONE
"No one here has ever said all gun owners are racist except"

Sure.

uh huh.

yeppers..

Im really sorry there bobby. I didnt mean to get under your skin.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:01 PM
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9. Feel free to post a link, fescue.
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:04 PM
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12. Its against forum rules to personally insult people.

Besides. Thats REALLY not necessary :)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:05 PM
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15. It's all right, fescue...
If you could have posted a link, you would have....

"Thats REALLY not necessary"
Or possible.
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:07 PM
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16. Hey..your're the expert
I bow to your expertise.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 02:39 PM
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31. You Mean "Peter Noone", from Herman's Hermits?
Just so you know, the correct spelling is "no one".
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:58 PM
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5. Thats ok.

When I see a person who is seething with rage, I rarely expect good treatment.
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 08:57 PM
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3. Did my post bother you or something?
I was only refering to the nutty radicals who make crazy claims.

I don't visit right wing forums Bobby. Perhaps you can compile a report on whats there after your next visit? I do notice that you talk about these forums quite often. Only for "research" Im sure.



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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:01 PM
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8. Didn't bother me, fescue...
But then I've seen your posts before...hahahahaha.

"I don't visit right wing forums Bobby"
I didn't mention right wing forums, fescue. I mentioned highroadrage and other gun owner forums...you know, the ones you and your fellow "pro gun democrats" were claiming were full of liberal sentiments delivered politely. (of course, that claim turned out to be utter horseshit...imagine that!)

"I do notice that you talk about these forums quite often."
Yep...they're more fun than the zoo, with weirder specimens. And of course, they often have the same right wing crap there that you guys try to peddle over here.
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:03 PM
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11. Sure.
I really really believe you.

As far as highroadrage, I'll take your word for it as I acknowledge your expertise on this.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 09:04 PM
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13. Considering what you do believe...
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 11:45 AM
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20. Wow. John Kerry is a politician. You heard it here first.
"However I do encourage those who believe gun owners to be racist, to look for a better candidate."

Nobody, not even MrBenchley, has said that all gun owners are racist. He has said that all gun nuts are racist; but no matter how many times one of you has tried to put those words in his mouth, he has never said that all gun owners are gun nuts. As we well know in this forum, some gun owners are in favor of gun control, and some don't care that much one way or the other.

And the funny thing about the "better candidate" crack is that every single person who knocks John Kerry or the Democratic ticket or Democrats in general in the JPS forum is an RKBAer. All of the pro-control regulars have defended Kerry from you lot over and over again. Guess it may have something to do with who wears single-issue blinders and who doesn't.
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