Assault weapon Ban ends in 6 days

[thomas82]

In 6 days we get our rights restored.
Tom

[tridim]

1. So are you going to go out

and assault some life with your new guns?

[thomas82]

19. No

Just some poor defenseless Pringles cans.
Tom

[wuushew]

2. Perhaps the pent up need to buy will prop up the Bush economy?

n/t

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. Rights to do what?

Don't get me wrong, I think we should have the right to have hunting weapons and target shooting weapons. But assault weapons-what are they used for other than killing people?

[Kierkegaard]

4. How about maiming and threatening?

I liken it to wanting to buy a tank to use for transportation. Who could disagree that that was preposterous? I doubt anyone would. Why then would anyone accept the argument that an assault rifle is a legitimate hunting weapon? :crazy:

[thomas82]

15. Semi auto (so called Assault weapons) Rifles

Are used in compitition/target shooting. As you know none of the weapons banned was an Assault weapon. Assault weapons fire in full auto and semi mode.
Tom

[Kierkegaard]

23. Why can't you target shoot with a 22 bolt action

like olympians have done for so many decades? BTW, not all assault weapons are full auto. Semantics doesn't adequately dismiss the subject. There is no reason that high powered semi-automatic, or especially automatic weapons need to be accessible to the general public. The issue is that the guns in question are nothing more than replicas of military weapons and those, as we all know, were designed for one thing. Killing people.

[FeebMaster]

24. No assault weapons are full-auto.

The Assault Weapons Ban only affects semi-auto weapons.

[thomas82]

29. Alot

Of competitions call for the AR15/AR10 such as 3 gun, long range matches etc. the 22 rimfire Is not a good choice past 100m. You could argue that a semi auto is not needed, but when engaging multiple targets in a 3 gun match a bolt gun would be useless.
Tom

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

48. Come to a DCM or IPSC 3 gun match sometime

My guess is you envision target shooting as sitting at a bench and shooting one round every couple of minutes into a paper target. I do that too, usually with a heavy barreled .308 Winchester Remington PSS since .22 long rifle is less than useless at 300+ yards with a crosswind.

DCM shoots from military positions (standing, sitting and prone) at distances well beyond a .22 rimfire. Hell even 100 yards is pushing a .22. DCM (as in Department of Civilian Marksmanship) mandates the use of a civilian version of a US military arm. The AR-15 and M1A1's are pretty popular.

IPSC three gun matches have the shooter firing on multiple targets from multiple positions while trying to have the lowest elapsed time and highest score. You could use a .22 rimfire bolt action rifle but this is going to kill your competitiveness in two ways; (1) you'll never beat the time of the semi auto guys, (2) good luck knocking over the steel targets with a .22 rimfire - there simply isn't enough energy delivered.

[slackmaster]

49. Gov't-sponsored matches encourage service rifle marksmanship

The issue is that the guns in question are nothing more than replicas of military weapons...

That is the whole point of the Civilian Marksmanship Program - To help ensure that there is a pool of good shots among the civilian population a.k.a. the unorganized militia a.k.a. the pool of citizens who are potentially subject to being drafted into the military. Competition between military and civilian shooters encourages both groups to improve their proficiency.

http://www.odcmp.com/Competitions.htm

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

50. Bah I forgot

the name got changed from DCM to CMP a few years back.

[akodo1]

64. olympics

"like olympians have done for som many decades?"

just for the record, about half of the pistols used in olympic shooting sports got classified as 'assault weapons' in the 94 bill, and ALL were classified as 'assault weapons' in california by thier more strict legistlation. When this was pointed out Grey Davis said 'if they want to shoot in the olympics, maybe they should move to texas!' but eventually the law was changed to allow some of those olymipic arms to be legal.

However, as they were named individually, if a new company comes up with something better for the olympics, they cannot be used in california.

Further, if that target sport hadn't been an olympic event, those guns would have stayed banned, even though they were clearly harmless target pistols often costing $5,000, not some tech-9 that a gangbanger is going to use in a drive by.

[icehouse]

27. It is

I took an 8 point with my AR15 this past winter.

55gr soft points

[WMliberal]

9. or killing massive amounts of animals

or just REALLY blowing one to shreds. Ah, sadism.

[thomas82]

13. No

All it means is we can have folding stocks, bayonet lugs, flash hiders on Post ban rifles. All it means is things will be less expensive since the original AW ban never reduced the number of semi auto rifles available, It just made them more expensive.
Tom

[tridim]

18. So now you'll be able to buy assault rifles at Wal-Mart

for bargain prices. That's fucking great.

[FeebMaster]

20. You mean assault weapons

since assault rifles are machine guns and unaffected by the AWB. Even then that's assuming wal-mart decides to sell them. The wal-marts around here don't sell post-ban rifles, I doubt that will change when the ban sunsets.

[FatSlob]

39. Are you serious?

or are you misinformed?

[icehouse]

28. Nope

Most all states only allow a max of 5 round mags for hunting

[skippythwndrdog]

25. For the umpteenth time

The AWB banned no assault weapons whatsoever. Zip, zilch, zero, nada...

[akodo1]

63. hunting

"Don't get me wrong, I think we should have the right to have hunting weapons and target shooting weapons. But assault weapons-what are they used for other than killing people?"

easy, hunting and recreational shooting.

if you don't believe hunting, holler and I will clarify what hunting guns were effected by the AWB

aside from the fact that an assault weapon can be used to defend one's home, or as the people in 'koreatown' found out during the rodney king riots, if you sit up on top of your business on a lawnchair with your SKS 'evil assault gun' visible, rioters tend to steer clear.

No I don't expect a riot, but I don't expect a fire either, but I stii have a fire exinguisher.

[mitchtv]

5. so Hummer will have optional Machine guns mounted

I'm so glad your rights will be returned. Yours and Tom Delay's.

[UpsideDownFlag]

7. it's like ted nugent's wet dream or something.

i'll never understand the amount of assault weapon glorification threads here on DU.

[goju]

37. I think that might be part of the problem

"you" dont understand the "need" or "desire" or whatever term is thrown around. They are just plain fun! I hope you get to find out how much fun they are one day. Every person I have ever taken shooting has come away with a smile and a new found respect, if not a new hobby.

I assume you have never fired a gun?

[thomas82]

8. Well

Machine guns have never been banned so the AW ban expiration will do nothing to change their availability.
Tom

[mitchtv]

21. Sorry , I don't keep up

our guns are just that, guns, nothing fancy,rifles , shotgun and pistol. More than enough to protect us, since we don't kill wild animals ,we sold the 30.06.

[slackmaster]

36. The AW ban has nothing to do with machine guns

Please read the law before you comment on it.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/921.html

[FatSlob]

40. Wow, way to show your ignorance.

The AWB has/had nothing to do with machine guns. Those are covered under NFA of 1934. If you like, I'd be happy to educate you on the issue, as it seems that you're not familiar with the issue.

[UpsideDownFlag]

6. what percentage of your posts are gun lusty editorials in the gungeon?

n/t.

[thomas82]

11. you tell me

Since you are so interested.
Tom

[UpsideDownFlag]

12. well, it looks like upwards of 90 to me.

you oughtta explore the lounge or GD-2004 forums. you might like them.

[thomas82]

34. Your right

I need to get out. Maybe i'll post something later.
Tom

[UpsideDownFlag]

61. too bad, you can't post something later. you got tombstoned.

no need to respond.

[FeebMaster]

10. I think this makes 8.

For those of you in the pool.

[onehandle]

14. Those men with small penises can rejoice. nt

[mitchtv]

16. hahahahaha

give them the Hummer salute:headbang: ( without the index finger)

[skippythwndrdog]

26. May those of us with large ones rejoice, too?

[thomas82]

30. Surely you are not

Accusing me of having a small penis? You sir would be sadly mistaken.

That was meant as a 5th grade joke right? "my pee pee is bigger than yours" what a stupid comment.

please young man go away and return when you are old enough to post.
Tom

[FatSlob]

41. Someday, I hope to be as mature as you.

Way to go. I'm impressed with your lack of knowledge.

[luaneryder]

17. Someone asked on another thread

what the purpose of owning/using an assault rifle is. I can't answer that, but perhaps you can. I'd like to know what purpose assault rifles serve.

[FeebMaster]

22. You mean assault weapon

since assault rifles are machine guns and unaffected by the AWB. As or their use, well pretty much the same as any other gun: self-defense, target shooting, hunting, plinking.

[thomas82]

31. Well its really not a Assault rifle or weapon

They are mearly semi auto copies of military rifles.

I use mine to teach my children the fundamentals of marksmanship and for target shooting.

I also emphasize that these are the tools that millions of Americans used to insure they have the freedoms they enjoy everyday.

The bottom line is owning an Assault weapon is a choice just as one chooses to drink or smoke.

Assault weapons can be used improperly and as such cause innocent people to die.

Smoking and Alcohol cause Innocent people to die also (DUI deaths and cancer from second hand smoke). Maybe we should ban cigarettes and Alcohol?

And as we all know there are many more deaths caused by drunk drivers than so called Assault rifles.

Tom

[innocentbystander]

32. Kerry and the 2nd Amendment

What's with his current support of the 2nd Amendment?

Would he let the NRA block another AWB after this one expires on 9/13?

[thomas82]

33. I'm hoping

He just lets it stay dead. Gun control is a losing issue. We tried the 10 year experiment and it failed.

I admit it had good intentions, but to ban cosmetic features on a semi auto rifle is ridicules.

Let the AW ban expire and continue to enforce current laws as they are sufficient gun control for the US.
Tom

[FatSlob]

42. I don't think he has control over the NRA.

I doubt another one will be passed anytime soon. It has proven to be crap.

[7th_Sephiroth]

35. cause maybe just maybe

i might have to stab a bear with a bayonet and then empty a 30 round magazine in it to kill it

[thomas82]

38. Your a brave man

To get that close. If you do please post pics cause you will be: "The Man"
Tom

[7th_Sephiroth]

43. actually on a hunting trip a bear attacked our camp during dinner

it rushed me and i barely had time to draw my desert eadle and blow its head off, it was like 14 inches from me

[TX-RAT]

44. Where were you hunting? What were you hunting?

[7th_Sephiroth]

45. deer

near eglin AFB there is a good hunting spot, but alot of bears

[TX-RAT]

46. Isn't the black bear protected in FLA.?

What did fish and wildlife have to say about that?

[7th_Sephiroth]

51. this was a VERRY agressive bear

took a chunk out of our table, it was justified

[TX-RAT]

53. Did you report it to Fish and Game?

[7th_Sephiroth]

56. yes

we did

[RoeBear]

54. Even if protected...

...you get to defend your life against a black bear.

[TX-RAT]

55. Didn't say you couldn't.

I'm just curious, whether or not it was reported.

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

47. Lucky

A good sized bear can make a .44 mag feel like a pop gun. Thankfully, I've not crossed a bear in a foul mood. I'd love for it to remain that way as well.

[7th_Sephiroth]

52. it was an aggressive one

but not full-grown

[skippythwndrdog]

57. Glad you lived to tell the tale.

I once had a black bear try to eat mt tent during deer season out west. The only problem was that I was in the tent at the time - sleeping. Good thing I had a .45 LC along for the ride or I might not be posting this.

I still havent fugured that one out. No food in the tent, clothes I'd cooked in were hanging in a tree, all the anti-bear rules followed. Sometimes bears, like people, just get ornery.

edited to add; Yes. I reported it to the Game and Fish folks. They recommended a good taxidermist. I sold the cape for more than enough to finance the trip.

[7th_Sephiroth]

58. we were cooking dinner

it might have been a runt that hadent eaten for a few days

[TX-RAT]

59. What did the bear tag run you?

[skippythwndrdog]

60. It was all of a buck, fifty back then.

Since I wasn't hunting, but shot in defense of me, G&F said I didn't really need a tag, but the taxidermist wanted one in case his files were audited.

[UpsideDownFlag]

62. " i barely had time to draw my desert eagle and blow its head off..."

:eyes: