Emirates Aided Kin of Palestinian Militants - NYT

[goforit]

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"Emirates Aided Kin of Palestinian Militants "

By JULIA PRESTON
Published: March 20, 2006

In the last four years the United Arab Emirates has provided substantial financial support, through its Red Crescent Society, to families of Palestinians, militants as well as civilians, who have been wounded or killed by Israeli forces, according to Red Crescent documents.

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In 2002 and 2003, the United Arab Emirates Red Crescent Society, a quasi-governmental organization, made donations to Palestinian charities that included social groups associated with Hamas, the radical Islamic organization that won Palestinian parliamentary elections and has long been designated a terrorist organization by the United States.

A glimpse inside the Emirates aid programs comes from documents provided to The New York Times by Gary M. Osen, an American lawyer litigating cases in the United States federal courts on behalf of American victims of Palestinian terror attacks. The documents include unclassified materials seized by Israeli forces from Palestinian organizations in the West Bank.

Mr. Osen, of Oradell, N.J., said researchers in Israel who were helping him gather evidence for the lawsuits had found the documents there in archives of materials captured in Israeli military operations.

The records include international financial transfers from the Emirates Red Crescent Society as well as budget and program reports from its Jerusalem branch, which handles programs in the Palestinian territories. They show differences between American and Emirate views of Palestinian violence, although President Bush has said the countries see eye to eye on fighting terrorism.

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Folks...this is huge!!!....The American Company that chooses to do
business with these "Evil People" need to be scrutinized carefully
with or without the cooperation of the US Congress!!!!

[Kagemusha]

1. I would politely urge you to um, calm down.

Look at it from the Arab point of view. What happens when a militant blows something up in Israel? Bulldozers bring down that man's family's house. He'll never use it, but Israel is determined that no one else will be able to use it, either. Now that family is destitute and in the streets. They have nothing. They are reliant on charity.. charity that may come from Hamas, charity that may come from other Palestinian social groups that are probably considered less effective than Hamas. These groups are providing humanitarian assistance (only!!) to the families of those harmed by Israeli troops, according to the article above.

Let me put that last sentence another way.

The evil for which you are now tarring the UAE for is channeling HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE to families of people hurt by Israeli troops, whether the people hurt were militants or not, treating the families as human beings rather than treating them as pariahs, marked by their association with the Israeli bullet, who should not be aided by the mere virtue of the fact that Israel wounded or killed a family member or took out their house, because who Israel hurts must be left alone by some sacred law.

And for this you would call them evil people.

I would politely urge you to reassess your methodology and conclusion.

[Fridays Child]

2. The Neocon noise machine has characterized the act of...

...helping Palestinian victims as the provision of aid to terrorists. It matters not that we understand such aid to be humanitarian assistance. What matters is that B*sh and his operatives have already told the public to view the assistance as unacceptable. They don't get to change their minds, just so that some mega-corporation can make an obscene amount of money.

[Kagemusha]

3. I don't approve of treating Arabs as sub-humans.

Any more than I would approve treating Jews as sub-humans.

[Fridays Child]

5. If that comment has something to do with my post...

...I sure can't figure out what it is. :shrug:

[Kagemusha]

8. I'm sorry, that wasn't some sort of personal issue with you.

That's a continuation of what you were saying, not a rebuttal.

I guess on a message board some people get used to relies being adversarial... and I could've sounded a bit more tender hearted there.

My issue is with neocons who think that helping Arabs is bad because they're not worth as much as human beings as, well, others.

[Fridays Child]

13. Okay. I gotcha. And, you're right. That is the neocon position.

:hi:

[tatertop]

4. That pretty much sums it up

[goforit]

10. Let me rephrase this , It's not the people of the UAE that are evil,

It is those in power in the UAE, like Bush, that promote violence for both the Palestinians
and the Israelis.

Promoting comfort to the families of all the suicide bombers in
training sends a message to them that their families will be well
taken care of for years to come. This is what they (Suicide bombers) want to know and hear
in order to succeed at their mission.

Secondly, this article shows how the Bush policies throughout the existence of the Iraeli/Palestinian conflict(Prescott Bush)has continously promoted havoc in this region for self-financial interest.

Many lives on both sides of the fence have paid a severe price.

The UAE and Bush are now exposed to the world for what they are
......whores to greed.

[The Stranger]

6. Holy propagada.

Let's quote this article:

In the last four years the United Arab Emirates has provided substantial financial support, through its Red Crescent Society, to families of Palestinians, militants as well as civilians, who have been wounded or killed by Israeli forces, according to Red Crescent documents.

They provided "financial support" (as opposed to "aid" or "humanitarian aid" or something specific like "hospital supplies" or "medicine") to "militants" (which leaves the question what the fuck constitutes a "militant") "as well as civilians who have been wounded or killed by Israeli forces (likely part of the military occupation of such civilians' land)."

FUCKING OUTRAGEOUS!

[goforit]

7. Bada Bing!!!...Give money to martyr families promotes suicide bombers!!!

[The Stranger]

14. Nice addition to the propaganda-- it doesn't say "suicide bombers,"

that was what you had added for effect.

[Kagemusha]

9. The language of the article must be confusing people.

Saddam did this all the time so it's not a new issue to me. This is providing financial support to the families of Palestinian militants and civilians who have been wounded or killed by Israeli forces. I took out one s and two commas and it makes much more sense this way.

[Orangeone]

12. So Timothy McVeigh's

family's house should have been destroyed?

[cantstandbush]

11. Palestinian "militants" It's the only militia the Palestinians can have.

Are they not supposed to resist occupation? Are they not supposed to fight back? Are they not supposed to defend themselves against aggression? WTF?

[Phx_Dem]

15. Question

following up on your post, do you think that suicide bombing is a legitimate form of resistance? Just curious.