Israel can no longer rely on the support of Europe's Jews

[G2099]

Whatever the outcome of the current Palestinian chaos, meaningful negotiations with Israel seem unlikely. The most plausible scenario is that Ehud Olmert will proceed unilaterally to draw new boundaries for his country, which will absorb significant Palestinian land, and institutionalise such dominance of the West Bank as to make a Palestinian state unworkable.

If this is the future, it is likely to yield fruits as bitter for Israelis as for Palestinians. The world, far from becoming more willing to acquiesce in Israel's expansion, is becoming less so. The generation of European non-Jews for whom the Holocaust is a seminal memory is dying. With them perishes much vicarious guilt.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0%2C%2C1801398%2C00.html?gusrc=rss

[Robbien]

1. The gov't of Israel is equal in depravity as the gov't of the US

Both are occupying lands in which they have no rights and both are causing untold misery.

[BayCityProgressive]

2. When

the US gives away all the land it has taken by force then maybe I will take Israel bashers seriously. Israel gained land AFTER defending itself in multiple wars. Even Prince bandar of Saudi Arabia said that it was a crime against humanity that the terrorist Arafat didn't take the Camp David deal.

[Poll_Blind]

6. LOL! All of a sudden you're quoting Prince Bandar to make a point?

I was going to use the ROFL icon but it just doesn't do the scene justice.

PB

[G2099]

3. Robbien . . .

You are a man/women of truth and there is NOTHING in existance greater than TRUTH.

[DELUSIONAL]

7. You are correct in your observations

It is ironic that some of the language used in Israel to claim their "right" to the land occupied by Palestinians can be found in very old newspapers (vintage) printed in the US during the 19th and early 20th centuries -- to justify the "right" of the whites to Indian land.

Indians were confined to reservations and starved deliberately by politicians.

What happens if an Israeli and Palestinian fall in love and (gasp) get married and have children? Wasn't there a recent decision which prohibited such family to exist -- that is live together as a family?? Again shades of racial segregation the US --

What is old is new again -- just given different names.

If we go back far enough -- we are all related. And Jews and Palestinians are more closely related than most people of the US (on average). So in a way this is a family fight -- and as we know family fights can be the nastiest.

[ikojo]

9. I know a woman who was born in Israel..met a man

IN ISRAEL...fell in love. However, they could not marry in Israel because he was not Jewish. They, like many Israelis who want a non orthodox wedding for one reason or another, went to Cyprus to exchange their marital vows. They now live in the US and have two kids.

Oh BTW, the man she married was from Austria. Ironic considering her grandparents fled to what was then called Palestine to avoid Hitler's wrath.

[Scurrilous]

10. Law prohibiting family reunification prolonged

Citizenship Law, which prevents reunification of families with both Israeli and Palestinian members prolonged again

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3267154,00.html


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"Pursuant to the suggestion of Interior Minister Ronnie Bar-On, the government on Sunday morning prolonged by an additional six months a law preventing reunification between Palestinians and their Arab-Israeli spouses.

All ministers, with the exception of Ophir Pines-Paz, supported the prolongation on the grounds that the Supreme Court supports it and the fact that, according to the defense establishment, reunification still poses a significant security risk.

This past May, the Supreme Court ruled that legal status would not be granted to Palestinians married to Arab Israelis and further ruled that although the law does violate the legal right to equality and a sound family life, the violation is "proportional."

The law arrived at the Supreme Court following a Knesset approval of the citizenship law in July, 2005. "Reunification" is a clause in the law by which the State grants permission of entry and even residency status to Palestinians or Arabs from neighboring states who are married to Israeli citizens and who ask to reside with their spouse in Israel.

In its final stages, reunification leads to Israeli citizenship to the spouse and children, an outcome that is very troubling to members of the defense establishment and to those worried about the future demographics of Israel."

[Scorpio2000]

4. It's no suprise

All three of them left. One went to San Francisco, and the other two went to Israel

[Jim Sagle]

5. Whadda buncha shit.

[Behind the Aegis]

8. What an ill-formed opinion.

However, I am not at all surprised.