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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:30 PM
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U.S. engineer indicted for passing secrets to Israel
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"An American engineer standing trial for spying and revealing secrets to China has also been indicted for passing secrets to Israel.

The indictment filed against Noshir Gowadia, 62, a U.S. citizen of Indian origin, does not provide details to the nature of the secrets passed to Israel or to whom they were given.

If convicted, Gowadia could face the death penalty.

The secrets revealed to China are the primary allegations in the indictment, and those revealed to Israel secondary. Gowadia is also alleged to have delivered U.S. secrets to Germany and Switzerland.

The indictment indicated that Gowadia's motivations were financial only."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/786501.html



Former B-2 Bomber Engineer Accused of More Spying

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2645205&page=1

Engineer Accused of Selling Secrets to Chinese Allegedly Shopped Secrets to Other Countries

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"A former Northrop engineer who helped design the B-2 stealth bomber has been hit with additional charges in an indictment that a federal grand jury returned earlier this week.

Noshir Gowadia, one of the lead engineers on the B-2 project, was originally indicted in November 2005 for allegedly selling information about the B-2 to China; the new indictment charges that his lust for money went even further as he shopped U.S. defense secrets to individuals in Israel, Germany and Switzerland, as well China."



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IntiRaymi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:32 PM
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1. This man did not have dual loyalties.
Only one loyalty: money.
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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:35 PM
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2. In other words "a Republican"
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:39 PM
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3. A convicted Republican...which is almost, though, not quite, a redundant term! NT
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:40 PM
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4. Loyal to Israel
and not his own country. You just can't trust them. Oh, wait. He's of Indian heritage.
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IntiRaymi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:43 PM
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5. Stop your odious insinuations.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:59 PM
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6. You mean suggesting
that people accuse Jews of dual loyalties is somehow inaccurate? Right.
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IntiRaymi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:03 PM
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8. Here-we-go.
:crazy:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:00 PM
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7. This story is a little weird.
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 03:01 PM by bemildred
Well, it's spook stuff, but still:

The secrets revealed to China are the primary allegations in the indictment, and those revealed to Israel secondary. Gowadia is also alleged to have delivered U.S. secrets to Germany and Switzerland.

The indictment indicated that Gowadia's motivations were financial only.

Gowadia is charged with passing information for an unspecified period to business sources in Israel, although he in no instance received payment for his services.
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IntiRaymi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:07 PM
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9. How can they state that with such confidence?
This person is a scumbag. But, as an Aerospace Engineer (and, apparently, not quite a Rocket Scientist), he would be smart enough to NOT keep an auditable trail of money.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:13 PM
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10. That's why it's weird. It requires explaining.
They assert two contradictory things.
But there is no explanation.
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IntiRaymi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:18 PM
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11. Well, did they find israeli I.O.U.s in his desk drawer?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:42 PM
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13. More:
Possible Recruitment/ Motivation:

"I disclosed classified information and material both verbally and in papers, computer presentations, letters and other methods to individuals in foreign countries with the knowledge that information was classified...the reason I disclosed this classified information was to establish the technological credibility with the potential customers for future business. I wanted to help these countries to further their self aircraft protection systems. My personal gain would be business." (affidavit)

http://cicentre.com/Documents/DOC_Noshir_Gowadia_Case.htm


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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-12-06 09:46 PM
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14. Ah. Loss leader. The free market in action. nt
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IntiRaymi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 04:43 PM
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15. Yep, corporate whore at work.
"Greed is Good"
- Gordon Gecko.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:31 PM
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12. Ironically, this suggests that the US government is too well-organized.
If he had been able to sell the secrets to the US government, then he wouldn't have stooped to revealing secrets to foreign governments.
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