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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 02:54 AM
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ANALYSIS: The West Bank is not the Gaza Strip, Palestinians say
Edited on Fri Jun-15-07 03:00 AM by pelsar
"They're using the same methods as the Israelis, and even worse," a senior Palestinian source said. "They declare an area a closed military zone and shoot anyone who goes out into the street. Hamasniks strip Fatah men they capture, humiliate and beat them. They go from door to door with lists to hunt down Fatah people and execute them."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/871412.html

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this is now a summary from an "israeli" point of view:

the fig leaf of the palestenians* caring about "human rights" has been exposed as they have executed people in the streets, thrown people off buildings etc.

the double standard of the human rights groups/UN should be glaring now:

Palestenians shooting up non violent demonstrators in the streets of gaza is not even headline news, nor have i seen any calls for "bringing the shooters to justice"

Lebanese shelling palestenian refugee camps does not get the headline news that israel does for a limited amount of shells landing in Beit Hanun.


Hamas has declared gaza liberated.....either that means that hamas is now the occupying power, or its liberated, but it is they, the palestenians, who control it and they decide how they defined their society.
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If Hamas does consolidate their power and turn gaza into a mini taliban/iranian society....will anybody (except for the citizens of gaza and israelis) really care? will anybody on the outside regret the israeli withdrawl? (i'm excluding many palestenians here as i've been lead to understand that their opinion in this respect doesnt carry much weight)

*note this is a generalization about the society as one generalizes about israel and or the IDF
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 01:52 PM
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1. I think far more people agree with you than you may suppose.
Edited on Fri Jun-15-07 01:56 PM by barb162
The world has been horrifed by what they have been seeing and reading on the news about the brutality of this week's events. It's been front page coverage everywhere, Pelsar. I have seen quotes from Palestinians on the order of (paraphrase): the Israelis never did anything like what's going on here now and calls for the Israelis to come back. AI and HRW have noticed!

Gaza fighting descends into new brutality
12 Jun 2007 11:51:00 GMT
Source: Reuters

By Nidal al-Mughrabi

GAZA, June 12 (Reuters) - For Gaza taxi driver Tamer Ammar, the internal fighting became all-out civil war when militants started killing their rivals by throwing them off 15-storey buildings and mutilating their bodies.

"I think we are in Iraq, not in Gaza," said Ammar, a 40-year-old father of six.

"Snipers on rooftops killing people. Bodies mutilated and dumped in the streets in very humiliating ways. Houses bombarded and civilians killed. What else does civil war means but this?"
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One Gaza doctor, who has examined the bodies of hundreds of Palestinians killed in fighting with Israel, said the level of cruelty in the factional fighting was "beyond our imagination".

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http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L12641888.htm



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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 02:07 PM
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2. And the UN is seeing the violence
Edited on Fri Jun-15-07 02:36 PM by barb162
"The shocking violence of recent days in Gaza, much of which has involved violations of international humanitarian and human rights law, has caused great alarm and sadness around the world," UN deputy spokeswoman Marie Okabe said. "The secretary-general is deeply concerned for the welfare of ordinary Palestinians and calls for full respect for their human rights."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/871527.html
World leaders pledge support for Abbas in confrontation with Hamas

As to Gaza being turned into a mini-Taliban type state, I think certain Mideast states are very worried.
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