Hamas rejects long-term truce

[oberliner]

As a Hamas delegation discussed a materializing ceasefire Sunday with Egyptian Intelligence Chief Omar Suleiman, a spokesman for the organization in Gaza reiterated its stark rejection of a long-term truce with Israel.

The spokesman, Ismail Radwan, said a long-term agreement "will kill the resistance, which is the Palestinian people's legitimate right as long as the occupation continues to exist."

Radwan spoke after Egyptian officials, including Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit, announced Cairo was preparing to proceed to the next step in truce talks between Hamas and Israel, attempting to render it a long term agreement.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3661622,00.html

[LakeSamish706]

1. All I can say is whatever Hamas does, they better not go poking....

the Grizzly Bear with a stick again. That will end up doing nothing but getting innocent Palestinians killed and will serve no positive purpose whatsoever.

[Idealism]

2. Hamas offers Israel a one-year truce

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x253980

[oberliner]

3. The Telegraph is a RW British newspaper

Weird that so many right wing sources are cited here.

[Idealism]

4. I would sooner trust a British newspaper than one based in Jerusalem

We all know how Israel has brilliantly controlled the press coming out of Gaza

[cali]

6. Haaretz is a far,far better news organization than the Telegraph

much more reliable. It's better to judge these things by record.

[DogPoundPup]

5. yesterday you said that this YNET news was off the charts far right in Israel

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=253431&mesg_id=253456

geez

[oberliner]

8. That would be "Israel National News"

It would probably be a good idea to have a solid handle on the sources in the region.

Ha'aretz is the most left of the Israeli news sources available online in English.

Ynet is pretty much in the center. (The most popular of the sources in Israel)

Jpost is center-right.

Israel National News aka Arutz Sheva is far right.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

16. INN is in the same league as EI and Al-Ahram, though it does have some factual reporting

which can be cross checked.

[DogPoundPup]

9. You're always scrambling, wobble, wobble, wobble

BOTH the articles in the original post were saying the same thing. Yet one is far right and can't be given credibility, OR is too truthful and embarrassing. lol

[Vegasaurus]

10. A one year truce

so they can rearm with bigger weapons, like the did during the last "lull"?

Israel isn't suicidal.

[DogPoundPup]

11. where are all the "weapons"? where are all these F-16's, tanks, drones, missles

etc. hamas has? Gee, I didn't see any and haven't seen any YET. I mean the IDF DID FILM ALL THEIR carnage in GAZA, so when will they show it to the rest of the world for proof that the hamas had so many "weapons"?

[Duckhunter935]

12. You dont need high tech to make weapons

That Is why Israel can not win the way it is fighting. Strap some explosives on a person and you have a smart bomb. Used very effectivly before the checkpoints slowed that down. Use common goods and chemicals to make rockets, morters. Hamas has done very well with these and really impossible to stop. My fear is if they were to open the borders fully(I think they should), some will exploit that with suicide bombs again and now with IEDs as they have been proven to be very effective.

[DogPoundPup]

14. Well you know what? the IDF just supplied the Gazans with a lot of easily available pipe/ metal

to make lots of weapons after they destroyed so much and left it all laying around in the gigantic heaps of rubble.

You could say now, the Israelis shot themselves in the foot again and SUPPLIED the "weapons" to the Gazans.

[pelsar]

18. you really should get out more...

or at least do more reading about the middle east before posting.........

[oberliner]

15. I was just pointing out that Israel National News is a far right site

Associated with the settler movement.

YNet is not.

I apologize that I wasn't clearer about singling out Israel National News.

I didn't say anything about the credibility of either.

[Duckhunter935]

7. both sides have bias

People around here sometimes only trust the side that is biased their way.

[ohio2007]

13. so when do they resume the reckless rocket barrages ?

[Alamuti Lotus]

17. That's reasonable

No long term agreements should be made unless fundamental changes occur in the general environment. I say this reflecting on the fact that the three long-term agreements already made have been a serious bill of goods for the duped. The fall of shameless tyrants like Mubarak, to a slightly lesser extent the illegitimate self-styled President Abbas, in favour of real democratic governments would be one step towards this necessary alteration.

[ProgressiveMuslim]

19. Actually, here is Hamas' position:

(remember, the goal of Palestinians is NOT to make the occupation and subjugation of the people of Palestine easy for Israel.... I know it's hard for some here to bear that in mind... as in, why shouldn't Israel be allowed to starve the population of Gaza?)

Israel proposes 18 month truce with Hamas;
Hamas counters with one year offer

http://maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&ID=35293
(snip)
The Hamas official who spoke to Ma'an also said that “the Palestinian Authority, UNRAWA, international organizations and companies will take a big part of the process rebuilding what was destroyed during the Israeli assault. The reconstruction will include residential projects and PA compounds in Gaza.”

He noted that “there are some Arab and European states who refuse to deliver funds to Hamas, so those funds will be delivered to the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah, UNRWA and international organizations and companies that will take a part in reconstructing Gaza, while Hamas will receive a part of the funds through different means.”

The official did not rule out coordination with the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah during the reconstruction process, saying “we do not mind having coordination but with a high level of transparency.”

He noted that “ Hamas has four files that it is working on accomplishing them including Gaza reconstruction, national reconciliation within the Egyptian adjusted proposal and with Arab sponsorship, communicating with the Arabs, investing in the popular movement that developed against the Israeli war on Gaza, and reaching out to the international community.