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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:56 PM
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'Obama to urge Muslim world to recognize Israel'
Edited on Sun May-10-09 10:00 PM by IndianaGreen
Last update - 05:33 11/05/2009

'Obama to urge Muslim world to recognize Israel'

By Reuters


The United States is promoting a peace plan for the Middle East involving a "57-state solution" in which the entire Muslim world would recognize Israel, Monday's Times of London quoted Jordan's King Abdullah as saying.

"We are offering a third of the world to meet them with open arms," the king said. "The future is not the Jordan River or the Golan Heights or the Sinai, the future is Morocco in the Atlantic and Indonesia in the Pacific. That is the prize."

But he warned: "If we delay our peace negotiations, then there is going to be another conflict between Arabs or Muslims and Israel in the next 12-18 months."

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The Times said that, after Obama's meeting with Netanyahu in Washington on May 18, the peace initiative could form the centrepiece of his major address to the Muslim world in Egypt on June 4.

"The critical juncture will be what comes out of the Obama-Netanyahu meeting," Abdullah said.

"If there is procrastination by Israel on the two-state solution or there is no clear American vision for how this is going to play out in 2009, then all the tremendous credibility that Obama has worldwide and in this region will evaporate overnight if nothing comes out in May."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1084660.html

May 11, 2009

Netanyahu meeting with Obama decides Mid-East’s future, says Abdullah


President Obama’s critical meeting with Binyamin Netanyahu next week has become the acid test for the Administration’s commitment to peace in the Middle East, King Abdullah of Jordan said yesterday.

The monarch does not conceal his feelings about the Israeli leader. He described their last encounter – 10 years ago when he had just come to the throne – as the “least pleasant” of his reign. But he, and President Mubarak of Egypt, are expected to meet the Israeli leader before his trip to Washington, where the future course of the region could be decided.

The King said that he was prepared to believe what Israelis have told him — that a right-wing Government in Israel is better able to deliver peace than the Left.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6261925.ece
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:59 PM
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1. Isn't this pretty much identical to the Saudi plan of the mid-2000s?
In that case, it was a two-state solution in exchange for recognition by every Arab state. Israel rejected it out-of-hand, the U.S. reiterated that it stood with Israel, and that was that. Second verse, same as the first.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:01 PM
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2. Bush is no longer in White House as the grand enabler of Zionism
And Obama knows that this is the last chance for a 2-state solution.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 11:26 PM
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8. Yes, the grandchild of the Nazi banker is all for the Jews.
You really are a piece of work. Could you link me to your threads about Bush going all kissyface with the Saudis? Oh, wait. The SAUDIS are the pro-zionists. Okay. I get you now.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 11:33 PM
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9. No, Bush has a fundamentalist Christian view of the Jews
which means that, if you are familiar at all with their scatological books, at the End of Days Jews will either accept Jesus as GAWD or be slain with the infidels. There are no Jews or Judaism left by the time Jesus returns to exact revenge on anyone that pissed him off. The real Final Solution!

Saudis are financing the Taleban. I am no fan of them or the Taleban.

Prescott Bush was pro-Nazi, as was Joe Kennedy Sr., William Hearst, Charles Lindbergh, Walt Disney, Henry Ford (of Protocols infamy), and other industrialists and financiers.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 12:45 AM
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10. Oops...
if you are familiar at all with their scatological books

I think you meant "eschatological" books (you might want to look up the definitions). Although, in the case of some such writings by Pat Robertson, Hal Lindsay, and Tim LaHaye, the two terms might be synonymous.

:rofl:

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:14 PM
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3. This ought to be good.
:popcorn::popcorn:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:51 PM
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4. Bibi's government cannot make a peace deal without falling apart
There is no way Bibi will be able to hold Likud together, much less his coalition, on a deal that involves abandoning any of the large settlements on the West Bank.

:popcorn:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:53 PM
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5. Yep, classic zugzwang.
Edited on Sun May-10-09 10:57 PM by bemildred
Edit: that is why they would rather talk about the "threat" from Iran.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 11:02 PM
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6. More than that, Bibi says he can't talk about peace without first taking care of Iran
Typical foot dragging from Jerusalem.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 11:13 PM
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7. Depends
Edited on Sun May-10-09 11:15 PM by azurnoir
on how well or if Bibi can castle he seems outgunned
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 08:52 AM
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11. I think he's screwed.
It's going to be much worse than Olmert. Olmert started out with some legitimacy and freedom of action. He wasted it, but he had it. Bibi is completely hog-tied. In any case, it ought to be an interesting show.
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