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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 09:23 AM
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Defeat terrorism
The "vision of a Palestinian state" is something we have already tried. In the 10 years since Oslo, particularly the last three, we have seen what the Palestinians intend to do with the tools of independence and statehood, if they are given them.

They already had a state-in-the-making, and they used it to build a huge terrorist base and a society mobilized and incited to hate Israel.

The Palestinian Authority did nothing to promote its own people's economy and welfare. It used all the tools of government in its hands in order to cultivate the terrorist capabilities of many systems and organizations, and in order to educate masses of people from kindergarten to old age towards war, hatred, and suicide terrorism.

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Therefore, the first step of any political plan has to be defeating terrorism. It is not a security but a political matter. It is a precondition for the very existence of political judgment. No political plan has any hope unless it is preceded by a decisive defeat of terrorism, not just militarily but conceptually.

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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 09:30 AM
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1. Hey
I love this quote from mr Sagle: This article ain't nuthin but ....
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 10:31 AM
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2. Huh?
Where did you find that quote?
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 10:47 AM
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3. Where?
In almost every thread replied by him when it has to do with Israel's sins...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 11:09 AM
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4. "decisive defeat of terrorism, not just militarily but conceptually"
One question: how?
Does this loon think things are going well?
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ex_jew Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:44 PM
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5. I thought the head of the IDF just said there was no way !
Apparently others are slower to catch on.
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rini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 01:04 PM
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6. There has to be away
to make terrorist understand that the price of terror is one thay do not want to pay and the gains of peace are waiting.
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 01:15 PM
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7. This won't happen as long
as people continue to cheer them on.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 01:24 PM
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8. Excuse me
What people are cheering them on?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 02:56 PM
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12. names,please
your statement appears unsubstantiated.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 02:48 PM
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9. Strictly Speaking, Ms. Rini
Edited on Mon Nov-03-03 02:50 PM by The Magistrate
There is no way to do that. The killers are not deterable, but are rather "Betrothed to Death", as an old Spanish fascist marching song put it. Nor are they moved in the slightest by the suffering of their people: indeed, such suffering is essential to their operation, and a great portion of their activity aims explicitly to increase it. The prospect of killing all the killers, though it has a certain charm at the retail level, is not too practicable at the wholesale end.

It is the people of Arab Palestine who must be convinced that the gains of peace are waiting, in order to reduce the support they give to the killers, who offer them the immediate psychic satisfactions of vengeance and pride. This will not occur until tangible concessions are made by the government of Israel, particularly in the area of most immediate grievance, the program of expanding settlements.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 02:53 PM
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10. Thank you Sir.
Precisely.
One needs a carrot, a substantial carrot,
as well as a stick.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 02:54 PM
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11. Well said.....
nt
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